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German attack hits 2. Sub flee or die?

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan Japanese take Yunnan from Chinese 1 armour moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 42 Sea Zone 6 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Shan State 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State 6 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Malaya Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 7 tactical_bombers British defend with 3 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 7 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 11/18 hits, 9.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 4 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 7 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 3 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 6 fighters and 7 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 artillery moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 6 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Japan to French Indo China 2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Siam 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China 1 harbour placed in Hainan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 48 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 3.50 UK_Pacific regular : -1.33 ANZAC regular : -0.33

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 4 artilleries and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Siberia to Korea 1 tactical_bomber moved from Buryatia to Korea Combat - Russians

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone 4 armour moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry and 7 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 123 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone 3 armour moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 5 artilleries moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 8 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom Combat - Germans British scrambles 1 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 109 Sea Zone British scrambles to create a battle in territory 109 Sea Zone Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 transport French defend with 1 fighter Germans roll dice for 1 transport in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 fighter in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Germans and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone French win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16 Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport Battle in United Kingdom Germans attack with 3 armour, 5 artilleries and 10 infantry British defend with 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; French defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in United Kingdom, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 5 artilleries and 10 infantry in United Kingdom, round 2 : 7/18 hits, 5.67 expected hits British roll dice for 5 aaGuns, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom 5 aaGuns owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 5 artilleries and 7 infantry in United Kingdom, round 3 : 6/15 hits, 5.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom 1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the French, 2 infantry owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in United Kingdom Germans captures 29PUs while taking British capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking United Kingdom from British with 3 armour, 5 artilleries and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 42 Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry Casualties for British: 5 aaGuns, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for French: 2 infantry Scrambled unit stays in territory 109 Sea Zone Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter could not land in 109 Sea Zone and was removed 3 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 3 armour moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 2 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 armour moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 3 mech_infantrys moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier placed in 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 110 Sea Zone 1 airfield placed in Normandy Bordeaux 5 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3 Germans collect 48 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 77 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.33 Germans regular : 1.67 British regular : -0.33

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looks like I messed up on the Russian front :( need to do something against India to make up for it

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus Russians take Caucasus from Italians 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Nenetsia 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Nenetsia Combat - Russians Battle in Nenetsia Russians attack with 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Nenetsia, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Nenetsia Russians win, taking Nenetsia from Germans with 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Nenetsia to Russia 1 aaGun and 7 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey Place Units - Russians 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 1.17

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malaya to Sumatra 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 55 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone 3 battleships moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 6 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Davao to 55 Sea Zone 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 18 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi Japanese take Kwangsi from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan 2 bombers moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Northern Sinkiang Japanese take Northern Sinkiang from Chinese 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sumatra Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 transport; French defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 transport owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for French: 1 destroyer Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 3 battleships, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 10 fighters, 20 submarines and 7 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 20 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/20 hits, 6.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese win with 3 battleships, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 10 fighters, 20 submarines and 7 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers moved from Hunan to Davao 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 3 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Guinea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Davao 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Sumatra to Malaya 3 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Malaya 2 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 armour, 8 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Eastern Sinkiang 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Eastern Sinkiang 1 aaGun moved from Hopei to Anhwe 6 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan 1 infantry moved from Honan to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Eastern Sinkiang Place Units - Japanese 2 battleships and 1 carrier placed in 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 38 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Malaya 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangtung 1 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Americans regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : 4.00 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.33

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SZ33 Battle: You did not ask for OOL even though there was an attacking SS and a defending DD. Common policy is to ask if you want the lose the DD or the CA. You automatically took the DD which is not what I would have done.

Since on Round 2 the attackers had two hits it would not effect the Japanese losses any. All three units would still be dead. However, with a DD and hit BA available on Round 2 versus a CA and hit BA the DD would have fired back whereas the CA was unable to do that due to the SS hit.

I propose we roll in the Forum a single dice @2 to represent the DD firing and see if it hits. If it does the US loses another fighter. A miss and nothing changes.

Thoughts?