@Jacob16 There is a programing problem here. Attacking subs have to retreat first. I wanted to just retreat one of them to AZO. But the program would not let me.
Any ideas?
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
Of course I tried it a couple of times, very intriguing especially because of Pacific islands, carrier scrambles, and airbase land scrambles, but also for those reasons I don’t play it because I’m not smart enough to switch back and forth to the regular map, islands, and scrambles. I would have to move completely to it, and I’m not doing that
I agree w. you and it takes a while to get used to it.
Also the tactic differs from BM global but adds some very interesting battles and positioning into the game.
I went back and forth for wether i like it or not.
You are right when you say that you should be comitted to one single full game, but you will get the hang of it.
JWW guided me pretty much through and we exchanged insights of our games we played.
Trulpen left some pretty good starting analysis in the PtV Strategic thread as well.
You should try it if you are getting the itch for a very solid complex game, but recommend for you to take your time on the turns and Set it as a term w. your opponent.
@666 was very kind and a very good sportsman, too.
I lost my two games but earned a lot of experiance!
Personally i would love to see people getting the best and the intrest of all of these provided league games including OoB, BM and PtV and Playoffs.
My bait to lure you in gamerman01.
Best regards
AetV
OOB is intriguing but then I remember no India NO and less Russia money, and I don’t miss those days of frantic defense of Russia and India. I think those NO’s alone make the balanced mod great, because Axis can’t just bull rush them and dice decide how much they lose. If I recall correctly.
I guess that’s why the bids are big. One can bolster Russia and India a lot with a big bid, I suppose.
dawgoneit Axis -vs- oysteilo Allies +30 oob
oysteilo Allies +30 Wins
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39782/dawgoneit-axis-vs-oysteilo-allies-30-oob/113?_=1689847522407
L23 BM4 Elche (Axis) vs MrRoboto (Allies+18) Game 1
MrRoboto wins
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40020/l23-bm4-elche-axis-vs-mrroboto-allies-18-game-1
MrRoboto (Allies+22) over Simon33 (Axis) BM
@666 over FlyingBadger
Playoff 22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+10) vs 666 (Allies)
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39819/playoff-22-ptv-flyingbadger-axis-10-vs-666-allies
MrRoboto(X) over Sovietishcat(L+6)
Roboto is clearly not very rusty…
No pun intended
L23 Martin X vs FlyingBadger L+22 BM4 Playoffs
FlyingBadger over Martin
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39632/l23-martin-x-vs-flyingbadger-l-22-bm4-playoffs
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
Roboto is clearly not very rusty…
No pun intended
Yeah those were nice. I am having some losses coming in too tough, unfortunately.
I always find it fascinating how in a game that does involve luck in quite a substantial way, some players are still so consistently strong and come out top of the league year in year out.
@MrRoboto said in Post League Game Results Here:
I always find it fascinating how in a game that does involve luck in quite a substantial way, some players are still so consistently strong and come out top of the league year in year out.
JWW used to say that.
Strategy/skill/experience/tactics, not blundering, and ability to adapt, like to bad dice, is much more influential than dice in G40 A&A. I think was true of AA50, too. Did I mention the psychological warfare, and imposition of will? Even speed of play can affect.
Consider - Every move in Monopoly except whether to get out of jail by paying money or using a card, is determined by dice or random cards. The entire path of your token for the entire game is pre-determined and you make decisions based on that. Yet with such a big role for dice, a better and more experienced player will rarely lose to an average or casual player.
@Martin said in Post League Game Results Here:
L23 Martin X vs FlyingBadger L+22 BM4 Playoffs
FlyingBadger over Martin
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39632/l23-martin-x-vs-flyingbadger-l-22-bm4-playoffs
Yay! Cat gets to start his first playoff game!
@gamerman01 hopefully we can avoid any byes, next year, so all participants will be busy.
That’s the downside, but Cat and Avner only have to win 2 games to be champion, and that is from earning the top spots in the bracket!
All depends on who signs up. 2nd Balanced Mod was the only one with 2 byes this year.
Who will come out of the Sovietishcat/badger battle royale?
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@MrRoboto said in Post League Game Results Here:
I always find it fascinating how in a game that does involve luck in quite a substantial way, some players are still so consistently strong and come out top of the league year in year out.
JWW used to say that.
Strategy/skill/experience/tactics, not blundering, and ability to adapt, like to bad dice, is much more influential than dice in G40 A&A. I think was true of AA50, too. Did I mention the psychological warfare, and imposition of will? Even speed of play can affect.
Consider - Every move in Monopoly except whether to get out of jail by paying money or using a card, is determined by dice or random cards. The entire path of your token for the entire game is pre-determined and you make decisions based on that. Yet with such a big role for dice, a better and more experienced player will rarely lose to an average or casual player.
I’m hoping for comments to this one. Other game or any other contest examples?
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@MrRoboto said in Post League Game Results Here:
I always find it fascinating how in a game that does involve luck in quite a substantial way, some players are still so consistently strong and come out top of the league year in year out.
JWW used to say that.
Strategy/skill/experience/tactics, not blundering, and ability to adapt, like to bad dice, is much more influential than dice in G40 A&A. I think was true of AA50, too. Did I mention the psychological warfare, and imposition of will? Even speed of play can affect.
Consider - Every move in Monopoly except whether to get out of jail by paying money or using a card, is determined by dice or random cards. The entire path of your token for the entire game is pre-determined and you make decisions based on that. Yet with such a big role for dice, a better and more experienced player will rarely lose to an average or casual player.
I’m hoping for comments to this one. Other game or any other contest examples?
I’ll bite…
I’d say G40 can be as Gamer says, but also the opposite. If you are playing a tight game, 1 bad roll can sink you. You miscalc your allied main fleet defense off Gib by say 10% and Germany swoops down on a 80%+ hit and you get rocked… night night…
I always say G40 and its derivatives are somewhat unforgiving. Yes you can recover from bad dice if you are the better player, but in even matches if one side gets rocked by dice, hard to come back. Especially for allies as they need almost 4x the amount of stuff to stop the Axis. Often Allies are forced to push moves where they dangle a possible 60-70% Axis win, but have to do it to keep the pressure on. If the Axis bite and win big, bad news. Of course 30-40% chance Axis lose big too…
@Karl7 I agree with this.
My own bit would be that if I think I’m intellectually/experience/whatever behind in a game then I will lean into aggression. The easiest example of this is Texas Hold’Em where you can call a flop all in on aces and still lose. In this situation the more aggressive player in this case vacuums up wins against a stronger player who is momentarily losing a war of attrition while they wait for the moment for the odds to be in their favor. If/when they get their moment they still need to not get “out-lucked”.
I think Monopoly is a bad example for two reasons:
That game is notoriously bad designed and much more luck dependent. The “skill” involved comes down to 2-3 ground rules, knowing the event cards and knowing the field values (very easy to learn). An extremely experienced player can be beaten at any time by a 10-year-old.
It involves psychology. Auctions work fundamentally different on a mechanical level. If someone is a very charismatic player, he or she may persuade others to make worse choices.
When there is a skill / Experience difference, the better player can overcome dice deviations from the average. Whenever I play someone better than me, my opponent manages not to give me any chances for a big gamble. They maneuver their units in such a way, that I have maybe a 15% chance to attack somewhere - which would make no sense for me to do. Thus, they avoid many chances for dice hitting them in the face.
However, at same skill level, dice can play a crucial role and have led me to take a break from the game because it can be super frustrating. I also recognize I had my fair share of wins against evenly skilled players due to dice, which actually also feels hollow.
@gamerman01 Adam defeats farmboy (allies +21) as usual