League General Discussion Thread

[dawgoneit]

@Martin if they do that there might not be enough room for me under my name. lol

[Martin]

@dawgoneit

[dawgoneit]

@Martin I’m not as old as any of those guys ( Yet) Lol.

[dawgoneit]

If those were all losses medals well, then I would have way more medals then they all have together Lol

[gamerman01]

You’re tier 2 and your tide has lifted all boats!! Don’t be so down on yourself, dawgoneit!
(double meaning intended)

[mainah]

I was doing some research on one of my opponents and came across two games that speak volumes about the players on this forum.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40113/l23-bm4-pejon_88-allies-17-vs-roboto-axis/94?page=4
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/40073/mrroboto-allies-22-vs-simon33-axis-bm/235?page=10

These types of games with these types of players is what brought me here in the first place. I am grateful for all of the players on here, and the time spent. It is a rare thing in this world, in any field of entertainment, vocation, professionalism, or other, for the uniformity of sportsmanship, mentorship, and comradery amongst a community.

[mainah]

Sweet dice gods batman!

Stop up voting this. It isn’t about me, it’s about you!
Upvote the mentioned players, upvote yourselves, each other, upvote the site!

[crockett36]

another option is to roll in real time with a zoom call or facetime. Or youtube live set to private or unlisted. brings a comraderie like the real thing, especially for big battles. Amps up the fun factory by 20.

[gamerman01]

Wow. I want to do this when I get around to it, thanks @crockett36.

[gamerman01]

I have amended the league rules, effective immediately, to be clear about fighters on allied carriers (rule 10).

Basically says you need to be declaring fighters on carriers when there are allies involved. Preferably in the “game notes” feature of Triple A.

If you don’t declare, they are assumed to be on their own power’s carriers if there is ambiguity.
Declaration every turn is not always necessary because a declaration from the previous turn and the course of events dictate that there is only one possibl combination, but it is good practice to declare after each turn, whenever it is not totally obvious.

Read the rule, too, see what you think.

This rule is way overdue, even though I haven’t had disputes about this ever come to my desk.

[gamerman01]

This also means that if you intend like fighters on like carriers, you need not say anything, because that will be the default assumption, so this can save efforts and confusion, both.

[simon33]

@gamerman01 so in the scenario where there are 2 US fighters, 4 UK fighters and 2 US CVs, 1 UK CV, if I don’t say anything, the US fighters are assumed to be on one of the US CVs, with the UK ones being on the other US CV and the UK CV?

BTW, I am pretty Triple-A does track this but you just can’t see it.

[gamerman01]

@simon33 Haven’t tried hard to test it, but I’m pretty sure they’re not tracked. After all, it doesn’t ask you.
In your scenario, if the owning player makes no declaration, then 2 UK fighters are on the UK CV, and the owning player is at the mercy of the opponent for the others. Same spirit of the law as the long standing assumptions league rule

[MrRoboto]

Just FYI, some statistics for the current 2023 League

[Martin]

@MrRoboto thank you for sharing. It all looks quite equal with the exception of OOB, where the Bid should apparently be higher.

[farmboy]

@MrRoboto I’m assuming the axis win percentage by M or E players is just telling us how often do they win if when they play axis. If it is easy to do, do you have how often they win as allies? It would be interesting to know that too.

[MrRoboto]

Yeah overall BM4 and PtV are in quite a good state.

OOB has the highest bids and is still the most unbalanced.

I have one other graph:

So when top players are involved, the bid are higher and still not enough in OOB.

One thing of note: The two statistics that reference the top players (win% and bids) count games where at least ONE opponent is M or E. That’s 75 of the 163 games.

It might be more interesting to see the statistics, when BOTH opponents are M or E. However, that’s quite a small sample size: Only 16 of the 163 games are between top players…
So I don’t know how valuable that information would be

[MrRoboto]

@farmboy said in League General Discussion Thread:

@MrRoboto I’m assuming the axis win percentage by M or E players is just telling us how often do they win if when they play axis. If it is easy to do, do you have how often they win as allies? It would be interesting to know that too.

Not quite right.

That graph shows the win% of axis, when one or both opponents are M or E.
The top player can be Allies or Axis, and the top player might have lost against the bottom player!

It might also be a game where both opponents are M or E…

I can give you the exact statistic of Axis Win% and Allies Win% of Top players in a moment

[aequitas-et-veritas]

@MrRoboto Thank you for sharing!

[MrRoboto]

May I present to you: The might of our top players!

Yes, you see that correctly: Every single time a top player chose Axis in BM4, he has won! I couldn’t believe it at first, but I double checked…

For context here are the absolute numbers:

Axis wins:

Total: 44 out of 52
OOB: 19 out of 22
BM4: 15 out of 15
PtV: 10 out of 15

Allies wins:

Total: 32 out of 40
OOB: 11 out of 15
BM4: 12 out of 15
PtV: 9 out of 10