barnee Axis vs VictoryFirst Allies G 40 Expansion

@VictoryFirst

It seems the Allies are skilled Sub hunters so far. At least that helps to even out the Sea Power disparity in the Atlantic.

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 13 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 7 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Karelia to Russia 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 20 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour and 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 20 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/20 hits, 3.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 1 artillery in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17 Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Casualties for Germans: 5 armour and 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Leningrad Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Stalingrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 2.00 Russians regular : 2.67

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Southern Italy British take Southern Italy from Germans 1 destroyer moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - British Battle in Algeria British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Algeria British roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 armour owned by the British lost in Algeria Germans win with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Place Units - British 2 transports placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 2.00 British regular : -1.67

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Stalingrad: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 4 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from United States to Azores Sea Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Azores Sea Sea Zone Americans attack with 7 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport 2 submarines owned by the Germans submerged Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16 Casualties for Americans: 5 fighters Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 3 fighters placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -3.50 Germans regular : 1.17

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After that round, I’m good to move on to the next game. No use playing this one out any further.

@VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 2:

Thats why I suggest for the next game we start from this save file.

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As the name suggests, it’s basically a G1 that has a more or less average EF, but a terrible Atlantic.

I appreciate the offer, but let’s start from scratch once this game ends. As strange as it sounds I have more fun playing around in these completely FUBAR (that saying might not resonate well with a non-native English speaker, sorry) situation than in completely on-rails ones. If this third game does not work out at all we can just play with TGC’s recommended balance to see how this strategy does in a more reasonable initial position.

Moscow battle: -28.78 / -52 (this one doesn’t really matter but I’ll still include it)
Total: -142.09 / -85

Well that TUV Differential went down fast after the Belorussia battle lol.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 1x factory_major; Remaining resources: 73 PUs; Germans buy 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Northern Belarus 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Leningrad 1 destroyer moved from 128 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 4/20 hits, 5.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Southern Belarus Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Belarus Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 8/22 hits, 6.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Vologda 4 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad Place Units - Germans 1 transport placed in 115 Sea Zone 3 artilleries placed in Leningrad 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany 2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 artillery EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 infantry EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Germans owned units to: airfield = 2 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 0.83

Savegame

@captainwalker i think this one is done

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 10 Purchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 126 Sea Zone: 2 aaGuns, 2 infantry and 2 transports EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 2 aaGuns EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 126 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 units repaired. 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 126 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Iceland to Eastern United States 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Eastern United States 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Americans take 6 Sea Zone from Japanese 4 submarines moved from 27 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 2 infantry moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from New Britain to 48 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 4 infantry, 2 marines, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone Americans take 23 Sea Zone from Japanese 3 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone Americans take 18 Sea Zone from Japanese 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Korea Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Korea from Japanese, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico 1 armour, 1 artillery, 8 infantry, 2 marines and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Central United States 6 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi Combat - Chinese Battle in Jehol Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol Chinese win, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 36 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Hunan EDIT: Chinese undo move 1. EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Hunan Place Units - Chinese 7 infantry placed in Hunan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to 100 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Burma British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in 100 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Italians defend with 2 destroyers British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 5.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 destroyers in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 100 Sea Zone 2 destroyers owned by the Italians lost in 100 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Casualties for Italians: 2 destroyers Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters and 6 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 9 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India Place Units - British 1 airfield placed in Egypt 9 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter and 1 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.17 Americans regular : -0.17 Italians regular : 1.33 Japanese regular : -1.33 Germans regular : 0.67 British regular : -3.17

Savegame

@crockett36

No scramble to 110.

Please note that you did the turn in local mode, so you need to redo you combat move in forum mode in order to post.

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