Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
              Americans take Southern France from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber moved from Scotland to Finland
        1 bomber moved from Vologda to Finland
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Marshall Islands
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Finland
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 3 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Finland, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Finland
            Americans win with 2 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 fighters moved from Finland to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Finland to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Finland to Norway
        2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 108 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 carrier and 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 24 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
        3 infantry placed in Norway

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0,67
Americans : 0,83

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
              Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hopei

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hopei
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
            Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Hopei to Kweichow

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        3 infantry placed in Kweichow
        Chinese undo move 1.
        1 infantry placed in Kweichow

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese : 0,00
Japanese : -1,00

Savegame

I haven’t followed this match for a while, and am impressed by the progress that the Allies have made. The top priority should be killing the Italian fleet and convoy raiding the Med to the point where Italy has no income. You should be able to wipe out the fleet on UK6 and start obliterating the income on turn 7.

Build another sub or two in the Med this round.

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

I haven’t followed this match for a while, and am impressed by the progress that the Allies have made. The top priority should be killing the Italian fleet and convoy raiding the Med to the point where Italy has no income. You should be able to wipe out the fleet on UK6 and start obliterating the income on turn 7.

Build another sub or two in the Med this round.

i disagree with this. I think the axis have made significant progress. The axis are within about 400 TUV at end of british round, but more importantly, they hsve more or less equaled the inome gab, not bad given the huge bid in this game
Norway is probably lost, but axis should be able to deny the western europe front?

Then you need to keep india, looks hard for allies to reclaim safely and the rules favors the axis here

I think it looks much better now for the axis than it did 3 or 4 rounds AGO

@oysteilo The Axis certainly has made progress, but considering that the Allies had an atrocious first round of inaction the game has tightened up a bit. The Western front is not worth fighting right now for the Allies, and won’t be able to be held until the Italian income is beaten down.

I do think the income game will be very close if the Allies can convoy raid the Med and East Asia. That should be the top priority over trying to advance any major landings.

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
              Americans take Southern France from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber moved from Scotland to Finland
        1 bomber moved from Vologda to Finland
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Finland
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Marshall Islands
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Finland
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 3 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Finland, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Finland
            Americans win with 2 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 fighters moved from Finland to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Finland to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Finland to Norway
        2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 108 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 carrier and 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 24 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
        3 infantry placed in Norway

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
              Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hopei

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hopei
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
            Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Hopei to Kweichow

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Shensi
        3 infantry placed in Kweichow
        Chinese undo move 1.
        1 infantry placed in Kweichow

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 3 artilleries, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to India
        1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              British take Tunisia from Italians
        1 artillery moved from Norway to Finland
              British take Finland from Germans
        1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to India

    Combat - British
        Battle in India
            British attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in India, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in India
            British win, taking India from Japanese with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 aaGun moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        1 fighter moved from Algeria to Egypt
        2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 92 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Eastern Persia
        3 aaGuns moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Persia to 81 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt
        1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
        1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt

    Place Units - British
        1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
        2 submarines placed in 81 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries placed in Persia
        2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 33 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5,1,6,6,5
        UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0,67
British : 0,00
Americans : 0,83
Chinese : 0,00
Japanese : -1,33

Savegame

I like the move to Finland. Sets up a grinder in the north. Need to kill German units. Pretty much the same in Tunisia

Sorry to bring up old info, I thought you had backed of Tambov and reinforced Samara? Just curious to find out your thinking since this is a learning game.

Is the UK 6 Turn finalized yet?

Are the two French infantry on a US or UK transport?

Italy 6: Is my capital safe? The US has a 4 infantry, 2 mech, artillery and cruiser bombard followed by a UK 3 infantry, armor, 2 fighter and 2 cruiser + battleship bombard. Need significant forces to defend against that.

Strategy: So, Africa is lost and the Russians are having a heyday. Italy did not do its job properly. Let’s at least try to stop any further bleeding by not staying in Libya where the US can smash those forces leaving Tobruk for the Russkies. Recapture the Continent and send help to the Eastern Front then sit behind sandbags and watch the massive Allied fleet steam around in the Med.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Libya to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
              Italians take Normandy Bordeaux from Americans
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 93 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 submarine
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 93 Sea Zone
            Italians win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Italians attack with 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            Italians win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Volgograd
        2 armour moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
        5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        7 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4
        Italians collect 19 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 2.00
British : -0.17
Americans : 1.33

Savegame

I think it was a mistake to stick the fleet in 93. the allies might very well destroy it anyway, but they would have to work harder to do so, and get pulled more out of position, if it was in 97.

@farmboy said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

I think it was a mistake to stick the fleet in 93. the allies might very well destroy it anyway, but they would have to work harder to do so, and get pulled more out of position, if it was in 97.

Thank you for joining in on the conversation! So why move to SZ93 versus staying in SZ97? Bear in mind Germany has not gone yet. Once they do the entire Luftwaffe will be in position to hit both SZ93 and SZ97.

If the Italian Fleet stays in SZ97 they do get the benefit of a 3 fighter scramble. However, UK has such a massive combined fleet from SZ92 and SZ81 that the Axis would not scramble anyway against such an attack. So the advantage of staying is lost. By staying the US can stay in SZ91 continuing to threaten Normandy and Western Germany while the UK combines their fleet and wipes out the Italians and does convoy disruption on SZ97.

By moving to SZ93 the Allied fleet in SZ81 cannot not now hit the Italian Fleet. Thus any US+UK or UK only attack is far less than before which means that hopefully more losses will occur on the Allied side of the battle. Also with the German air force threat the UK will not be able to send only the SZ81 fleet to SZ97 or it will be wiped out. In addition, any fleet left over in SZ93 will also be at risk and any fleet in SZ93 must be balanced by some fleet in SZ91 or remove the threat of additional Allied landings.

Thus unless the Allies ignore the Italian fleet at the very least SZ97 will not be convoy disrupted as much as they would have been and perhaps one or more Allied units will die attacking the Italian fleet in SZ93. If even one more Allied unit dies and 4-5 more IPCs are collected by Italy than this would have been a successful move.