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ok gentlemen (and Jenn) - it’s 2014 league startup time. the 2014 league starts on Nov 1 correct? gamer, have you published the official ruleset and rankings and playoff system for the 2014 league yet?
No, it’s Nov. 2, not Nov 1
They are in progress, and will probably not be ready on Saturday. I’m working on the draft and Jennifer will review it. Just proceed using existing league rules until there are new ones. This is our hobby, not our job -
ok gentlemen (and Jenn) - it’s 2014 league startup time. the 2014 league starts on Nov 1 correct? gamer, have you published the official ruleset and rankings and playoff system for the 2014 league yet?
No, it’s Nov. 2, not Nov 1
They are in progress, and will probably not be ready on Saturday. I’m working on the draft and Jennifer will review it. Just proceed using existing league rules until there are new ones. This is our hobby, not our jobabsolutely agree - don’t think i was implying that they SHOULD be ready, was just asking about the status since 2014 league games are already in progress.
thanks gamer!
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First draft completed and sending to Jennifer now
Actually, I’ll just go ahead and attach it there since you can’t attach to PM’s anywayNow’s your chance to get your 2 cents in on the league rules for next year. I confess I didn’t re-read the 10 pages of suggestions thread again, but I think I remembered most of the main points.
There is maximum freedom to the players for bidding, tech, and LL (if both players agree before starting).
Please note that in this document, the first half is the current 2013 league rules copied and pasted.
Then after that is my draft of 2014 league rules.
Moderator Commander Jennifer has not looked at these yet, so again, this is a draft and very much subject to change. -
I would support making a bid placement limit of 1 unit per SZ or territory default.
Other than that (which I could always negotiated game by game) I have nothing to suggest.
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I would support making a bid placement limit of 1 unit per SZ or territory default.
Other than that (which I could always negotiated game by game) I have nothing to suggest.
Your wish is granted :-)
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I have room for a 2014 league game.
I prefer normal luck with one LL-Reroll option for both players.
Tech only, if tokens are allowed.Please contact me :-)
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First draft completed and sending to Jennifer now
Actually, I’ll just go ahead and attach it there since you can’t attach to PM’s anywayNow’s your chance to get your 2 cents in on the league rules for next year. I confess I didn’t re-read the 10 pages of suggestions thread again, but I think I remembered most of the main points.
There is maximum freedom to the players for bidding, tech, and LL (if both players agree before starting).
Please note that in this document, the first half is the current 2013 league rules copied and pasted.
Then after that is my draft of 2014 league rules.
Moderator Commander Jennifer has not looked at these yet, so again, this is a draft and very much subject to change.thanks for all your work on this.
i have a couple of suggestions one small and one large.
"4 - Game & rules default – G40 2nd edition rules, ADS, NO’s, No Tech, Auction Bid. "
having ADS, NO’s, and No tech is superfluous.i recommend point 4 being
4 - The league uses Axis & Allies Global 1940 2nd edition rules.
Rules available online here (Europe rules, then Pacific rules): http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Europe_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Pacific_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdfpoint 4b is ambiguous and could be difficult for new players to understand.
“4b - Bidding – Bidding will be used in order that both players are satisfied with the side they are playing and the starting setup. Players may negotiate with one another, with the following default settings:”i would recommend.
4b - Determining sides.
When setting up a game both players ‘Player A’(the player that first makes contact with another player) and ‘Player B’ declare their preference to play as the Axis or Allies.
If the players both want to play opposite sides the game begins.
If both players want the same side an auction begins.The Auction
‘Player A’ offers ‘Player B’ the side that he/she does not want and adds a bid to entice ‘Player B’ to accept.
‘Player B’ has two options decline the offer and increase the bid or accept the offer and the game commences.
If ‘Player B’ declines the offer and increases the bid it is now up to ‘Player A’ to decline the offer and increase the bid or accept the offer. The bidding goes back and forth until both players are happy with their side.if you want to keep the tradition of bidding down which i think is inferior to straight bidding then the above paragraph could be changed to the following
‘Player A’ offers to play the side that both players believe is disadvantaged and adds a bid. ‘Player A’s’ initial bid will be high enough that they believe the disadvantaged side has now become the stronger side.
‘Player B’ has two options accept the offer and the game commences, or decline the offer and decrease the bid.
If ‘Player B’ declines the offer and decreases the bid it is now up to ‘Player A’ to either accept the offer or decline the offer and decrease the bid. The bidding goes back and forth until one player accepts the bid.Bids
Bids are an IPC amount that is added at game setup.
The player that received the bid can divide up the IPCs among the powers that he/she controls as they see fit.
The player can use the IPCs to purchase units pregame or add to the powers existing IPCs.
Purchased units can only be placed in territories or sea zones that currently have units from that power.Optional bid rules if both players agree to the option.
Players can add restrictions to bids such as but not limited to;
no bid IPCs can be added to a specific power, such as China,
all IPCs must be used to purchase units pregame and not allowed to be added to a powers existing IPCs,
certain territories or sea zones may not have units added to them,
No more than one bid unit can be added to any one territory or sea zone.Players can add optional styles to the bids such as but not limited to;
adding a specific technology breakthrough to a power,
adding a specific unit to a specific territory, such as a Soviet bomber to start in Moscow,
a certain power will/will not declare war on specific turn.
units purchased with bid IPCs can be placed in territories that you control that do not already have existing units,
units purchased with bid IPCs can be added to friendly powers territories,
units purchased with bid IPCs can be added to any sea zone. -
Good suggestion, thanks - I will fine tune the bidding rules to make them clearer
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4b: Â Did we not agree to limit players to bidding no more than 1 unit per territory they control at the start of the game or 1 naval unit in a sea zone they currently have a naval unit in - or are we going to leave that restriction to the players to determine as part of their bid?
As for non-standard bids, personally, I am okay with them, as long as both players agree. Â For playoff games, however, I think we need “default” rules as listed. Â I might even say we need to have a fixed bid amount and just determine sides by random dice. Â Just my opinion there, got no problem with arguments. Â We can always finalize playoff rules by Feb 1, for instance (just to pick a date at random.)
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jenn, i agree that non-standard bids can be fun and should be allowed in league, but standard rules for the playoffs.
i am very against the idea of a fixed bid as there is still so much variation in the bids.
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I also dislike the idea of fixing the bid amount for single-elimination playoffs.
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Don’t worry about the fixed bid idea, guys, I already “vetoed” it in the other thread.
@Jenn, I think we do leave the 1 unit per territory restriction open to the players to decide.
The draft rules for “bidding” currently leave it wide open to the players to agree. Even the “default” of requiring a unit in the sea zone already or ownership of the territory may be changed upon agreement by the players.
I have heard the players saying they want maximum options and flexibility in the league, and I agree with them. -
Okay, it works. As I said, the fixed bid for playoffs was just an idea to float.
Personally, I like being able to drop two units in a territory if I think it is needed. We are keeping the one naval unit per sea zone starting with naval units of the power in question though, correct?
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@Cmdr:
Okay, it works. As I said, the fixed bid for playoffs was just an idea to float.
Personally, I like being able to drop two units in a territory if I think it is needed. We are keeping the one naval unit per sea zone starting with naval units of the power in question though, correct?
Bottom line is, if both players agree, they can do it (for negotiating starting setup)
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are we going to get new sticky threads for 2014 find league opponents and post results? can anyone do it?
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are we going to get new sticky threads for 2014 find league opponents and post results? can anyone do it?
No. This is a problem. Jennifer can’t do it. Perhaps a different moderator can.
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are we going to get new sticky threads for 2014 find league opponents and post results?� can anyone do it?
we definitely need new stickies. these threads are already unruly and extremely difficult to find information.
i hope djensen can help out with this.
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is everyone looking forward to the year of “Boldfresh Domination” as much as I am? � :wink: �just kidding! (but not really)
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are we going to get new sticky threads for 2014 find league opponents and post results? can anyone do it?
No. This is a problem. Jennifer can’t do it. Perhaps a different moderator can.
can we put out the APB on the existing moderators to see if anyone is watching the store in regards to these types of administrative issues? is Darth still active? Dave Jensen makes an appearance ever 3 months or so for about 10 seconds.
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are we going to get new sticky threads for 2014 find league opponents and post results?� can anyone do it?
we definitely need new stickies. these threads are already unruly and extremely difficult to find information.
i hope djensen can help out with this.
We have no league moderator who can sticky threads or edit posts. I requested this from Dave months ago and didn’t even get a response. We might have to just make do.
Bold, feel free to PM all other moderators and ask if any of them can edit or sticky in league threads. We may just need to ask a small favor of one of them to do a little housekeeping for us. If you’re not, let me know and I will PM them.
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