• I was watching the trailer for the first time and they get to that long shot of the Falcon being chased by a TIE and I went, “Cue Firefly style crash zoom onto Falcon. TIE crashes. Wow did that just copy and paste that from Return of the Jedi?”

    Nothing in it about the story, there will be modern film-making trope shakey-cam (see lightsaber passing scene and the sequence mentioned above.) CGI shot of mass of Stormtroopers like in the hated prequels. No STARS. Everything is in atmosphere.

    My fears for this film were not allayed.

    Anybody else in the “Han shoots first within ten minutes of the start of this movie” camp? They’ll start if off right away with that which motivates the CGI scenes we’ve seen of the Falcon getting chased. Everybody will be so jazzed they’re not in a Speical Edition or prequel (despite the huge dose of CGI they’ve just witnessed but spent the last 16 years bitching about) it won’t matter what’s in the rest of the movie.

    The lightsaber crossguard is still dumb.

    I also think the not-Tatooine desert planet being called Jakku is JJ thumbing his nose at fans again because it was going to be Tatooine.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @frimmel:

    I was watching the trailer for the first time and they get to that long shot of the Falcon being chased by a TIE and I went, “Cue Firefly style crash zoom onto Falcon. TIE crashes. Wow did that just copy and paste that from Return of the Jedi?”

    I thought the same thing. It is both an unimaginitive re-creation and another blatant show of fan service.

    @frimmel:

    The lightsaber crossguard is still dumb.

    At this point it is just escalation that will not stop. It started with Darth Maul in Ep. 1 having a double bladed lightsaber… which was legitimately cool, useful and seemingly plausible. Thankfully Lucas didn’t take that further in creating new and different lightsabers. But I fear that is what we have happening now. There is a perceived need to up the ante and deliver something novel and never before seen… but for what purpose? To keep people’s interest? To be creative? To wow the audience with something ever more outrageous? You start to ruin the legacy and the future when you tamper with something simple that works.

    @frimmel:

    I also think the not-Tatooine desert planet being called Jakku is JJ thumbing his nose at fans again because it was going to be Tatooine.

    I never considered that, but seems plausible. Although, I don’t know why he would feel the need to do so considering that anyone would have assumed that a desert planet in the trailers or in pictures from a set would be Tatooine. I don’t know why he would feel slighted about that speculation. He would have to expect it.

    But again, copying the desert planet theme comes off as both hearkening back and retreading old ground because it worked before. If he would have just said it was Tatooine that would not be an issue.


  • All I heard when I learned the name of totally not Tatooine (which I learned via the Battlefront info) was “Frak You.” Jakku/Frak You.

    Spoilers?

    So Jakku where they meet a force sensitive, spunky, and sassy farm girl longing to leave her boring moisture farm life for adventures amongst the stars. She spends her free time exploring the crashed SD and finds the copies of the long lost plans needed to put an end to the resurrected Empire’s long lost secret weapon. Han and Chewie on a mission themselves to find these plans are led to a cantina in the planet’s “wretched hive of scum and villainy” city where after learning the location Han must shoot first in self-defense because the contact intended to kill them all along.

    He then heads off to collect the plans and gets rescued by our spunky heroine who wants the “walking carpet” to get our of her way so she do it better than the “old fossil.” But his handiwork has drawn attention and the bad guys show up and they have to fly into the engine cowling of a crashed space craft in order for the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy to outrun a TIE fighter.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    I wouldn’t find her moisture farm so boring.

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16

    I think you nailed it Frimmel, the trailer looks like a remake of A New Hope.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Gargantua:

    I wouldn’t find her moisture farm so boring.

    :lol: :lol:


  • Here’s something that looks sufficiently like an AT-ST scout walker that it may interest Star Wars fans:

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/giant-robots-set-to-fight-after-u-s-company-issues-video-challenge-to-japanese-rival-1.2456864

    It doesn’t actually walk, but in terms of design it’s at least a move in the right direction.  The paintball cannon armament is likewise less-than-formidable, but that would be an easy detail to upgrade.


  • Looks like a I called it on the girl exploring the crashed Star Destroyer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16

    I just can’t believe we’re going to see a third iteration of the massive, planet destroying battlestation.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    I really want to let loose on an anti-JJ Abrams rant right now… but I will keep cool. Everything I could say has been said before. And better by others.

    I don’t know what I can stand less: the slathering, orgasmic fan-boy/girls who just think this is going to be the most awesome thing ever or the film itself.

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16

    Also did not need to see a warp field effect for the Falcon in hyperspace, then again JJ used the hyperdrive effect for the Enterprise in Trek XI. So all this crap is blending together in one big JJ-verse. At least this doesn’t look as stilted as the prequels.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    I would prefer stilted while respectful and true to form over whatever the heck this is… New, fresh, sleek and decidedly modern… Star Wars has never been that.


  • In the end, we all going to see our bodies sitting in cinema and watching star wars e7.
    Sighhhhhhhhhh. :-)

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Not me man! I am holding strong.

    I am one of the biggest LoTR fans you will find, but The Hobbit 1 bored me and made me afraid for the future, The Hobbit 2 pushed me into anger and despair.

    Still haven’t seen The Hobbit Part 3.

    I am well on the path to the dark side.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8


  • @aequitas:

    In the end, we all going to see our bodies sitting in cinema and watching star wars e7.
    Sighhhhhhhhhh. :-)

    I’ll buy a ticket to something else and sneak in but I won’t give them money for a porcelain hamburger.


  • @LHoffman:

    Not me man! I am holding strong.

    I am one of the biggest LoTR fans you will find, but The Hobbit 1 bored me and made me afraid for the future, The Hobbit 2 pushed me into anger and despair.

    Still haven’t seen The Hobbit Part 3.

    I am well on the path to the dark side.

    :lol: :lol: :-) :-) :-D :-D :-D

    HA HA Ha Ha


  • @LHoffman:

    Not me man! I am holding strong.

    I am one of the biggest LoTR fans you will find, but The Hobbit 1 bored me and made me afraid for the future, The Hobbit 2 pushed me into anger and despair.

    Still haven’t seen The Hobbit Part 3.

    I am well on the path to the dark side.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnFr-DOPf8

    Awesome stand, Hobbit movies were bad. Battle of Five Armies did not need to out do the Battle of Pelennor Fields.


  • Hey ABWorsham, how are ya?
    Haven’t seen you in while.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @ABWorsham:

    Awesome stand, Hobbit movies were bad. Battle of Five Armies did not need to out do the Battle of Pelennor Fields.

    Truth. I was deeply disappointed in the Hobbit films to say the least.

    I know some more-than-casual Tolkien fans who say to the effect of, “Hey lighten up!” or “Don’t be that guy.” But I will certainly be that guy in this situation. The Lord of the Rings remained true to the spirit of the book and made relatively minor alterations. From what I saw of The Hobbit 1 & 2, the source material was abused wherever it was seen fit to do so. What annoyed me perhaps more was just how fake and digital the entire films looked in comparison to LoTR.


  • @LHoffman:

    @ABWorsham:

    Awesome stand, Hobbit movies were bad. Battle of Five Armies did not need to out do the Battle of Pelennor Fields.

    Truth. I was deeply disappointed in the Hobbit films to say the least.

    I know some more-than-casual Tolkien fans who say to the effect of, “Hey lighten up!” or “Don’t be that guy.” But I will certainly be that guy in this situation. The Lord of the Rings remained true to the spirit of the book and made relatively minor alterations. From what I saw of The Hobbit 1 & 2, the source material was abused wherever it was seen fit to do so. What annoyed me perhaps more was just how fake and digital the entire films looked in comparison to LoTR.

    I quite agree.  A friend of mine once said that Kubrick’s film Eyes Wide Shut was, in a strange sort of way, a true artistic triumph because it achieved the impossible: it made sex look boring.  My feeling about to the Hobbit trilogy is that it too was, in a strange sort of way, a true artistic triumph because it achieved the impossible: it made the original LOTR trilogy look realistic.  I loved the original three films, and I like the extended DVD edition even more, but to my great disappontment I found the Hobbit prequel to be a bloated monstrosity.

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