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Hmm. The Kreigsmarine…was underwhelming. 5 of 5 misses. Luftwaffe had 1 good mission and 1 bad. But the Weirmacht rolled, so Germany is ok.

@simon33 said in L25 bm4 axis-dom vs simon33 (allies+16):

Was pretty worried about a Sea Lion there. I think it was on. I think if my DD had survived, you wouldn’t have been able to take Gibraltar or maybe you would have had Italy do it?

yeah probably would’ve taken with italy in that case. and yeah SL is always possible in these scenarios for sure

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 5 destroyers and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 16 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to 16 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India 1 armour moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from French Indo China to 80 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to India 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to India 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi Combat - Japanese Japanese creates battle in territory 41 Sea Zone Battle in Kwangsi Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi Japanese win, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 39 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 39 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 39 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 39 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 39 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in India Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 artillery; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in India, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in India Japanese captures 6PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital Japanese converts factory_major into different units Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery Battle in 16 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 16 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Burma Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Tsinghai Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese win, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 80 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 bombers British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport; Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 transport owned by the British and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 80 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 transport Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from 80 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland 2 carriers moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 16 Sea Zone to Korea 2 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 16 Sea Zone to Japan 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 39 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Burma to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 5 destroyers and 4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 56 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 63 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 2.67 UK_Pacific regular : -0.67 British regular : 0.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shan State to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in Celebes Battle in Borneo Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Northern Australia 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 64 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Queensland Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Tobruk Russians take Tobruk from Italians 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Archangel Combat - Russians Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Archangel, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Russia 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey 1 mech_infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -1.00

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 22

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 22 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 3 armour, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 14 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 7 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 132 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 bomber moved from Shantung to Shan State 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 9 Sea Zone 5 submarines moved from 5 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 5 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Soviet Far East to 9 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to 9 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Kansu to Honan 1 armour moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan 1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Chahar 1 armour moved from Shantung to Shansi 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Kiangsu 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Kiangsu 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 armour moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 armour moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone Japanese take 132 Sea Zone from Americans Combat - Japanese Battle in Kiangsu Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry Chinese defend with 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kiangsu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsu Japanese win, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery Battle in Honan Japanese attack with 2 armour and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Honan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan Japanese win, taking Honan from Chinese with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 18 artilleries, 1 bomber, 7 fighters, 16 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 3 aaGuns, 20 artilleries and 29 infantry British roll AA dice in Shan State : 1/9 hits, 1.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State Japanese roll dice for 4 battleships in Shan State, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 18 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 16 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 18/46 hits, 18.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 20 artilleries and 29 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 15/49 hits, 16.33 expected hits 15 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 3 aaGuns owned by the British and 16 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese roll dice for 18 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 3 : 9/31 hits, 13.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 20 artilleries and 13 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 11/33 hits, 11.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 10 artilleries owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 9 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese roll dice for 8 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 4 : 11/20 hits, 9.50 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 20 artilleries and 4 infantry in Shan State, round 4 : 9/24 hits, 8.00 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese and 8 artilleries owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 7 artilleries owned by the British and 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 6 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese retreated UK_Pacific win with 13 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for Japanese: 18 artilleries, 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 3 aaGuns, 7 artilleries and 29 infantry Battle in 9 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 5 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged Japanese roll dice for 5 submarines in 9 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 9 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 9 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 3 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 9 Sea Zone 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 9 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 9 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 9 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 9 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 9 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 9 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 9 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 9 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 9 Sea Zone, round 4 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 transport in 9 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 9 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 42 Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier and 3 submarines Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport Battle in Anhwe Japanese attack with 2 armour and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber could not land in 9 Sea Zone and were removed 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 9 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 3 transports moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 4 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to 132 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 fighter moved from Shan State to 132 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Shan State to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Shan State to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Shantung to Japan 1 fighter moved from Shantung to Japan 1 aaGun moved from Shantung to Anhwe Place Units - Japanese 3 destroyers placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Shantung 3 armour placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in French Indo China Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 11 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 38 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,2,4,5,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 45 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,5 Japanese collect 33 PUs (11 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.00 Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : -3.67 British AA : -0.50 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33

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That’s a long time at sea not fighting anyone and not transporting anyone, but I think has been very effective :D Thanks for the hat tips