2013 G40 League Post Game Results Here - Thread

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13L  PGMatt (Axis) over Whackamatt (Allies +11)

the US went belly up in record time.  A lot of bad dice throughout, mixed with 1 critical error in naval movement, and Japan wins fast.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32075.165

hobo (Allies +15) over wheatbeer (Axis)

@wheatbeer:

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hobo (Allies +15) over wheatbeer (Axis)

Well, actually it was Allies+12;)
You create a track record to either conceal huge bids when losing with the Allies or bloating bets your opponents had when winning with Allies vs you  :-D :lol:

I have to say this was a great game and I can recommend people to replay it. It was an extreme race with the Axis throwing everything all-in for a Europe victory which either works in a specific round or the game is over. I have to say I am a bit disappointed not being able to see how it would have gone if the last sea battle would have had an average result. Still good chances for the Allies though but not sure if the game would have been won for sure for the Allies.

@JDOW:

Well, actually it was Allies+12;)

Augh! Sorry hobo!

@JDOW:

@wheatbeer:

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hobo (Allies +15) over wheatbeer (Axis)

I have to say I am a bit disappointed not being able to see how it would have gone if the last sea battle would have had an average result. Still good chances for the Allies though but not sure if the game would have been won for sure for the Allies.

That last naval battle didn’t matter if the US won or not.  UK would have finished off the last few units which was the point to clear the blockers towards egypt.  True I would not have piled onto N. Italy and held it, but it would have left 3 extra US transports(plus air) to attack rome followed up with UK.

So in order to hold rome the axis would have had to stack about 15 guys there to make it a coin flip.  That would have left egypt open since I could have attacked it with over 30 units.  The only way to try to hold both was not to finish off russia that turn and send all the german air to rome.

Yes the game would have lasted a bit longer, but with nearly a 2:1 ipc advantage I was content to grind it out.  Avoiding an axis vc win was the only priority.

I know I got really lucky in that last naval battle but if you rewind back to early on in the eastern front I was horribly unlucky which was why russia even fell.  Had all the axis/russian battles gone “average” I think I would have held russia.  Me losing a 95% battle to take back ukraine really sealed russia’s fate.

@hobo:

That last naval battle didn’t matter if the US won or not.  UK would have finished off the last few units which was the point to clear the blockers towards egypt.  True I would not have piled onto N. Italy and held it, but it would have left 3 extra US transports(plus air) to attack rome followed up with UK.

So in order to hold rome the axis would have had to stack about 15 guys there to make it a coin flip.  That would have left egypt open since I could have attacked it with over 30 units.  The only way to try to hold both was not to finish off russia that turn and send all the german air to rome.

I would be very interested in playing out an alternate universe continuation (not for credit naturally) where the US achieves the average result to test if your assessment is accurate. I think you may be underestimating Axis options (though the Allies have so many options themselves I can’t play out the scenario by myself, especially since you’ve got a better Allied mind than I do).

We both had luck which shaped the game and you earned the win.

I am just curious if that battle actually cost the game or if I would have lost either way (absolutely admitting this is possible without seeing your alternate moves). Let me know if you’re interested, doesn’t have to be fast play.

@wheatbeer:

@hobo:

That last naval battle didn’t matter if the US won or not.  UK would have finished off the last few units which was the point to clear the blockers towards egypt.  True I would not have piled onto N. Italy and held it, but it would have left 3 extra US transports(plus air) to attack rome followed up with UK.

So in order to hold rome the axis would have had to stack about 15 guys there to make it a coin flip.  That would have left egypt open since I could have attacked it with over 30 units.  The only way to try to hold both was not to finish off russia that turn and send all the german air to rome.

I would be very interested in playing out an alternate universe continuation (not for credit naturally) where the US achieves the average result to test if your assessment is accurate. I think you may be underestimating Axis options (though the Allies have so many options themselves I can’t play out the scenario by myself, especially since you’ve got a better Allied mind than I do).

We both had luck which shaped the game and you earned the win.

I am just curious if that battle actually cost the game or if I would have lost either way (absolutely admitting this is possible without seeing your alternate moves). Let me know if you’re interested, doesn’t have to be fast play.

hobo don’t do “alternate universe” right hobo?  :wink:

In fairness, it could be a lot of extra planning and time with the main benefit going to my A&A education.

Allweneedislove over Me1945

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32029.105

@Boldfresh:

@wheatbeer:

@hobo:

That last naval battle didn’t matter if the US won or not.  UK would have finished off the last few units which was the point to clear the blockers towards egypt.  True I would not have piled onto N. Italy and held it, but it would have left 3 extra US transports(plus air) to attack rome followed up with UK.

So in order to hold rome the axis would have had to stack about 15 guys there to make it a coin flip.  That would have left egypt open since I could have attacked it with over 30 units.  The only way to try to hold both was not to finish off russia that turn and send all the german air to rome.

I would be very interested in playing out an alternate universe continuation (not for credit naturally) where the US achieves the average result to test if your assessment is accurate. I think you may be underestimating Axis options (though the Allies have so many options themselves I can’t play out the scenario by myself, especially since you’ve got a better Allied mind than I do).

We both had luck which shaped the game and you earned the win.

I am just curious if that battle actually cost the game or if I would have lost either way (absolutely admitting this is possible without seeing your alternate moves). Let me know if you’re interested, doesn’t have to be fast play.

hobo don’t do “alternate universe” right hobo?   :wink:

You would need a transporter to get to the alternate universe to begin with and avoid your opposite selves when you do manage to get there.

@Me1945:

Allweneedislove over Me1945

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32029.105

me1945 got screwed by the dice. he set himself up for a pacific victory that depended on a 50% naval battle and lost

Quote from: Me1945 on October 18, 2013, 10:43:16 pm
Allweneedislove over Me1945

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32029.105
me1945 got screwed by the dice. he set himself up for a pacific victory that depended on a 50% naval battle and lost

I’d say 56-57% vs. Allies 32%. Try to set 4 Japan ACs first in the OOL, not the default calc order. The true is one more/less hit from any side and the percentages changes dramatically.

13L  Whackamatt (Axis) beats MagicQ(Allies+11)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32035.0

Arathorn (Axis) over Infrastructure (Allies +13)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=31940.150

Calling it with the 9-day rule.

Japan took India J3 and Germany followed up with taking London G4, so the game was over anyways.

Game counted on 10/31

Gamerman01

@wheatbeer:

In fairness, it could be a lot of extra planning and time with the main benefit going to my A&A education.

If you want we can just continue assuming you win that battle with the tipped battleship and 3-4 fighters left.  Of course it would just be for fun since I can argue I lost the 97% ukraine battle basically cost russia.  That naval battle plus the wiping of the last japanese fleet was like the only good luck I got this game practically.  It will still come down to dicing since a lot of these battles aren’t really complete locks.

With the benefit of hindsight, I agree with you about Ukraine. Without the Soviet’s lousy luck in Ukraine, Germany would have had at best a coin flip shot at Moscow. Even if I had great luck, such a battle would still leave me too weak to secure victory.

Assuming my stated OOL and giving the Allies max offense in SZ95, 4 fighters and a damaged BB is most likely for SZ95. Irregular dice could shape the outcome still. However, I’m willing to risk that or play out the remainder as low luck (assuming we can change the game setting within tripleA), whichever you prefer.

And of course just for fun, so game on  :-) And just to reiterate, you absolutely won fair and square, I just want to satisfy my curiosity since we’ve missed the more climactic VC battles. I rarely get to see an Allied endgame that depends upon Western Europe and Africa rather than Eastern Europe!

Amon Sul over Vold (Allies +12)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32005.new#new

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32161.120

jww over variance (allies +10) had started the game as 2014 L, assuming it would roll into Nov but it didn’t……

@arathorn:

Arathorn (Axis) over Infrastructure (Allies +13)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=31940.150

Calling it with the 9-day rule.

Japan took India J3 and Germany followed up with taking London G4, so the game was over anyways.

I would like some decision on this.  He put in the post that he was going to be gone for two weeks and then comes on and claims a win.

WTF?

Infrastructure posted the loss 10/31 and is recorded then

Gamerman01