scramble & ool
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2016 League Post Game Results Here
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37275.90
Odonis (Axis) over Talleyrand19 (Allies)
just when I think I’m figuring things out, I make the worst mistake in the history of the Allied Spain strategy
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Axis Dominion (Allies +23) defeats Arthur Bomber Harris (Axis)
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37348.0
StuckTojo (Allies) defeats Talleyrand19 (Axis)…up next, round 3
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And Arthur Bomber Harris (axis) over MrRoboto (Allies) balanced mode.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37321.0
That whole massive bomber strategy with Germany, developed about a year ago, really destroys the game. It is no fun to play against. Maybe I’m too stupid to find something against that, but if it continues to be so popular among Axis players, I don’t know if I want to continue playing the game at all, or at least the Allies.
Although we had this discussion very often, I still would to share my opinion about it. I definitely believe that the bomber strategy is not better (slightly worse) than a well executed Barbarossa.
The axis are just tough to beat if played well, even with a 25+ bid, that’s it.For a reason I do not quite understand losing against bombers hurts somehow more and people start complaining that bombers are unbeatable.
I mean, take players like Zhukov or Adam, they are both Barbarossa lovers and only start buying bombers if this is the quickest way to put pressure on Russia (Round 4-5 usually). As far as I know both haven’t lost a single game with the Axis (unless dice have been ridiculous maybe)
So I wonder: Why doesn’t everybody complain that Barbarossa ist just unbeatable and flawed? Just buy ground units towards Russia ruthlessly the first 3-4 rounds and Germans are unstoppable. THIS is what I believe might be some kind of a flaw –> Germans pushing brutal on Russia PLUS great execution forces Allies to ask for 32+ bids.Bombers are annoying for the Allies as the make the game dicey, so there is no safe way to stop them. However many games have been reported where dark skies failed. And interestingly, in the top competition of this league dark sky is rarely executed, and to me its no surprise why :)
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Rubioton+12 Allies over Surprise Attack
36915.1
One of these days I’ll get my game plan figured out -
So I wonder: Why doesn’t everybody complain that Barbarossa ist just unbeatable and flawed? Just buy ground units towards Russia ruthlessly the first 3-4 rounds and Germans are unstoppable. THIS is what I believe might be some kind of a flaw –> Germans pushing brutal on Russia PLUS great execution forces Allies to ask for 32+ bids.
Yep, they’re going to take over Moscow in that scenario. UNLESS the Allies put enough pressure on them to stop it. Allies need to do their job is the thing. I also prefer this strat. Buy slow moving ground units for 3-4 rounds (sometimes longer, depending) and just march them to Russia. Bombers early on can work, but this strat is a guarantee.
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Stalingradski (Allies +23) over Tallyrand19 (Axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37263.315
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oh yeah, Stalingradski beat me, forgot to post
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oysteilo over Pherman
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=36857.90
I am claiming this one due to inactivity. I have not heard from the guy since December. I see others have done the same
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2 years in a row now, he’s left with about 8 or more games going. Beware playing him in the future, unless you like your opponent disappearing :-P
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2 years in a row now, he’s left with about 8 or more games going. Beware playing him in the future, unless you like your opponent disappearing :-P
I am not surprised
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I do understand the points, and the realism argument.
I would suggest choosing from this menu:
- Increase cost of Bombers back up to 15, and consider fighters to 12 (leave over-priced tacs alone), just like they used to be. Tanks won’t look so expensive any more :)
- Remove the +2 SBR for Strat bombers, or make it +1.
- What you’re saying. Lower bomber attack value or do a 1 round thing. Bombers attacking at 4 in air to air combat or in naval combat is ridiculous. Very few instances of bombers actually attacking fleets in WWII to my knowledge.
- Lower cost of Strat bomber unit and make it so it only does SBR. No conventional attacks allowed. Who ever heard of bombers flying over an army of 20,000 and killing them all, anyway? And whoever heard of infantry shooting down bombers? Or tanks shooting down bombers? What is WRONG with this game anyway?! :wink:
What I experimented with is STBs attacking only @ 2 BUT any land unit can support the bomber with +2 attack bonus. In sea battles again attack is only @ 2 but each surface warship can support up to 2 bombers with +2 bonus. This change improves realism a lot and importantly does not alter the OOB mechanics as long as number of bombers in a battle is small. It still allows for “dark skies” strategies, but makes them significantly less optimal.
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There you go - good stuff
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you know what? That sounds like an extremely good idea.
It prevents these annoying bomber-only attacks on the Allies fleets in Med, Atlantic or the Canal, as well as the typical Egypt / London captures with 1 inf and 30 bombers.
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16L G40 ArtofWar1947 (Axis) vs. JWW (Allies + 22) Rematch: JWW (Allies+22) over ArtofWar1947 (Axis)
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ABH over AldoRaine.
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=36312.300
Legion386 over Giallo
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Variance as Axis over Strategic Planner as Allies http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37119.75
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cds over Surprise Attack Id # 37130.0
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Cyanight (Allies +22) over Pherman1215 (Axis)
I guess he has gone missing again. I have not heard from Pherman1215 since December.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?action=post;topic=36903.120;num_replies=127
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