@LHoffman:
Yeah… but as usual he makes them in a jerk-fashion.
I’ve been around for years. Not just on this site, but others as well, just like anyone, I’m sure.
However, this is one of the worst for trying to get a solid argument, actual facts with some sort of citation, reliable sources, or just plain not moving the goalposts out of many people. And those people, by and far, have had a pretty conservative swing. There’s nothing wrong with that end of the political spectrum, but I hope there is a better defense of it than I see here.
I’m in the minority, I realize that. I’ve tried doing civil discussions with some success but more failure than not. I probably assume it’s already blown in the first place and jump right into the flawed methods I was originally arguing against.
But know this: Vance demonstrated exactly what I think is wrong with America. Unchecked dis/malinformation and the propagation thereof.
It clouds true discussion and can be dispelled so easily, ESPECIALLY considering the discussion is being done on the internet that provides myriad resources and already-existing discussions. But it doesn’t. And when you hear the same hackneyed, ignorant, and outright abusive comments and “arguments” pushed forth by a sham of a news organization and fringe groups, you get pretty damn tired of it.
Granted, all news sources are biased (we’re only human), some actually go to lengths to keep some integrity, not dispose of it to push some agenda and then lie to you saying they aren’t.
It’s a real shame that a comedy/entertainment show (or shows) I watch here and there are far more informed (requiring me to be informed as well) and honest than those that are self-reportedly equitable and equanimous.
This is something I’m actually serious about and am not too soft to pull punches. And call me a jerk all you want: I’m not going to flinch when I think ridiculous ideologies and those that espouse them are harmful and will call them out on it. Someone has to.
Besides, I’m a grown man, and if I can’t handle a simple insult that I’ve heard a million times before, then I should be nowhere in public or on the internet.
