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• • • gamerman01

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Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
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Units, Mechanics, etc.

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• • • The Janus

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Destroyers are great all around units, but I’ve found them quite lacking in actual offensive and defensive abilities. You really need loaded carriers to have a solid defense, and submarines to have a tough punch. This applies less on the European side where land based aircraft are abundant and there’s less naval warfare.

In the Pacific area, I often find fleets consisting mostly or of just destroyers aren’t powerful enough to spar off with mixed fleets of carriers, destroyers, and submarines. They’re just cost inefficient in terms of defense points compared to carriers and attack points compared to submarines (I use the TripleA battle calculator):

288 IPCs of destroyers (36 destroyers, attacking) vs 288 IPCs of carriers, fighters, and destroyers (6 carriers, 12 fighters, and 9 destroyers, defending) = destroyers win 18% of the time, carriers and destroyers win 81.5% of the time. Obviously if the defending fleet was just destroyers both sides win 50% of the time, so having carriers is clearly superior. TUV swing of -65 to -70.

Meanwhile, 288 IPCs of submarines (48 submarines, attacking) vs 288 IPCs of carriers, fighters, and destroyers (6 carriers, 12 fighters, and 9 destroyers, defending) = while the attacker cannot fully destroy the defender, they on average end up with 25 to 26 submarines left (meaning they lost 23x6 = 138 IPCs) after all the defender’s ships are lost (6x16+9x8 = 168 IPCs) with a TUV swing of 32 to 36 IPCs. In other words, significantly better than the destroyers. If instead of carriers we replaced the defending units with destroyers of equivalent value the submarines win nearly 100% of the time and get a 155 to 159 TUV swing.

I hope I was able to demonstrate how, while destroyers are incredibly useful, they have to be complemented by carriers and submarines.

Also submarine defense points are really not all that bad. 1 cruiser attacking 2 defending submarines (12 IPCs on each side) is actually 50-50, while the submarine advantage attacking exceeds their distadvantage defending when compared to destroyers. As mentioned, while the cost efficient attack points of submarines absolutely decimate a destroyer fleet of the same cost 100% of the time, 36 destroyers attacking 48 submarines only win 72% of the time with a TUV swing of 43 to 44, while the likelihood of success for both sides decline at roughly equal rates when the costs of both fleets go down to more realistic levels (9 destroyers attacking 12 submarines, with both sides costing 36 IPCs, win only 63% of the time with a TUV swing of 10 to 14, while 12 submarine attacking 9 destroyers win 92% of the time with a TUV swing 33 to 35).

Cruisers and battleships are unfortunately unbuyable. I’m sure you can find some ideas to rebalance them on this forum.
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Lee vs Emil AA50 (1942)

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that was unexpected

Italy covers the defense of France and bleeds Russia a bit
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L24 PTV MikawaGunichi (X+7) vs Wizmark Game#2

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Russians Russians repair damage of 10x factory_major; Remaining resources: 25 PUs; Russians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Gorky to Vologda Russians take Vologda from Germans 2 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Yaroslavl 1 fighter moved from Russia to Yaroslavl 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Southern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov Russians take Rostov from Italians 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria Chinese take Southern Manchuria from Japanese 2 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea Combat - Russians Battle in Southern Belarus Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus Russians win, taking Southern Belarus from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yaroslavl 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Russians win, taking Yaroslavl from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Korea Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 20 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 1/22 hits, 4.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Korea Russians win, taking Korea from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 aaGuns moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Belarus to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Russia 1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Stalingrad 1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,3,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5,6,3 Russians collect 32 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 0.33 Russians regular : -4.33
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Warfare Principles of Axis & Allies (By AndrewAAGamer)

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• • • AndrewAAGamer

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@The-Janus

The Europe 1940 rules do say that the either the US or UK should play France (though in Global, the US is too busy controlling China to get France).
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👋 Introduce or Re-Introduce Yourself (Current)

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Hi @barnee

Thank you for your welcome.

I already have TripleA and Axis & Allies Online. But only played against AI so far.

I already talked with The Captain, so with try the Global 40 house rules soon :)

Happy new year to you!
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Daaras vs MikG test2

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 4
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Northern Belarus Russians take Northern Belarus from Germans Combat - Russians Battle in Bessarabia Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Southern Persia 2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 4 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 10 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk 2 aaGuns, 4 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur Place Units - Russians 5 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Russia 3 infantry placed in Stalingrad 2 infantry placed in Urals Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 46 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 0.17
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TGC (CP) vs. Rangell804 (Entente), 1914 Balanced

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Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 battleship moved from SZ 22 to SZ 24 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from SZ 24 to Belgian Congo 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia 6 infantry moved from India to Persia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to SZ 29 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to SZ 29 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 29 to SZ 26 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 26 to Portuguese East Africa British take Portuguese East Africa from Neutral_Allied 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Angola British take Angola from Germans 4 infantry moved from Picardy to Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from London to SZ 9 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 9 to Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo Combat - British Battle in Belgian Congo British attack with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Belgian Congo 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belgian Congo Germans and British reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Rhodesia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 battleship moved from SZ 29 to SZ 26 Place Units - British 2 artilleries and 10 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - British British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.00 British regular : -1.67
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