• '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Gargantua:

    And what exactly is -overation-?  To me it’s the fact that people are pumping something up, and promoting it as the best thing since sliced bread, even though it’s not really that great… and leaves you feeling empty in the end.

    Well yes, that is essentially what I am talking about. I did define it earlier: something that does not live up to its pre- or post release hype or critical acclaim… and/or did not deserve to make so much money or be so popular based on it being a poor film, for whatever reasons you wish to list. It should be based about 50/50 on your preferences and stylistic or critical points. Just because you didn’t like it really is not good enough, because then it is strictly a matter of opinion and it doesn’t matter what anyone says.

    @Gargantua:

    Wait wait wait…

    So Twilight gets immunity because it was -geared- for teenage girls?  But Harry Potter doesn’t because it was -geared- for children?

    And neither does avatar/matrix, because it was geared for sci-fi freaks?

    No, I did not say that. I did say that Twilight, and any film geared distinctly toward a certain gender, is more difficult to evaluate because it is rare that the typical male will enjoy it. How can you comment on how good it is or how overrated it turned out to be if you could care less about it in either case.

    I am not saying a person can’t legitimately comment on a movie from a genre don’t like, because they still can, but it is more difficult to do if it doesn’t interest you in the first place; you aren’t invested in it. You “imagined” that Twilight was overrated, and for a guy like you and me it sure is. You don’t even have to see it to know that; we just don’t care about it. But any given girl might tell you differently. My fiance said the exact same thing I thought she would: Twilight was not as good as the book, but the movies are not “overrated”, as I have defined.

    The Harry Potter books may have initially been geared towards kids, but that rapidly evolved to the point where as many adults as children were reading them, if not more. I have not seen the movies, but i understand that they evolved in a similar fashion; they became more mature and more appealing to adults as they progressed.

    I also reject that Avatar and The Matrix are geared only towards sci-fi junkies. It is obvious from Avatar’s worldwide financial success that many more people than just the sci-fi crowd were into it (or at least bought into it). Avatar, as a film, was designed that way. The Matrix has become a classic and, as some have said, revolutionary. Only time will tell if the same holds for Twilight, but I doubt it. Men and women, young and old really can get into movies like The Matrix, Avatar and Star Wars… even if those who are most vocal on enjoying them are men.

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    @LHoffman:

    @Young:

    Any overrated movies on my list of 333?

    Well, The Matrix, which I already pointed out.

    Crash… I did not like that movie at all and I don’t understand why so many people do. It seemed purposeless.

    I agree with you about Avatar, but The Matrix was an original, cool, and good looking action film… even if the acting was subpar. Crash was intense, disturbing, controversial, and well acted which gives it a quality all good films have… memorable. This type of movie has its fans and critics… another good one is Crossing Over with Harrison Ford.

    Getting back on topic though… I thought that the Hunger Games was overrated. They thought that some unique costumes, and a screen play based on a top selling novel can excuse the fact that it should have been more violent considering the whole premise.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    The best part about crash is when that car jacker gets shot, when he’s just trying to -legitimately- hitch hike.

    The death was DESERVED.

    Maybe he was even still alive enough to burn to death in the car.  I hate scum like that. I laughed outloud in the theatre, whilst others sobbed.

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    @Young:

    I agree with you about Avatar, but The Matrix was an original, cool, and good looking action film… even if the acting was subpar. Crash was intense, disturbing, controversial, and well acted which gives it a quality all good films have… memorable. This type of movie has its fans and critics… another good one is Crossing Over with Harrison Ford.

    Getting back on topic though… I thought that the Hunger Games was overrated. They thought that some unique costumes, and a screen play based on a top selling novel can excuse the fact that it should have been more violent considering the whole premise.

    Regarding The Matrix, I did not see it when it came out, and only first saw it about 3 years ago. It is entirely possible that my late coming and reference frame with many movies post-Matrix tainted my viewing experience. So I don’t claim my perspective on it as gospel. I do however stick to it being less than I expected.

    It has been years since I watched Crash, and would watch it again to refresh my view on it, but I tend to dislike those movies with a plot that is no bigger than the characters in it and as it relates all of their lives as somehow connecting. It feels like a disjointed and contrived narrative which has no impact on the wider world. That is just my opinion. I disliked War Horse for the same reason. While I felt it had some of the best portrayals of The First World War I have ever seen, it was just depressing, overlong and too much of an emotionally driven movie for me to like it. It was well made though.

    Yes, I agree The Hunger Games was WAY overrated. I personally did not expect much from the movie going in, and got even less coming out. But everyone else hyped it up and made it out to be the biggest hit of the summer which I am tremendously glad to say was not the case. This one also goes into my category of ruined by immediate capitalization and commercialization. The novel was a big hit very quickly, and the first thing people want to do when anything like that happens is make a movie of it. One reason I believe The Lord of the Rings was done so well as a film is because it had decades to grow and mature in culture and literature without the hyper-commercialization and shallow development of the digital age. Unfortunately, The Hunger Games and Harry Potter came out at a time when books jump straight to film and are not given time to really sink in with people. Anyway, I thought it was poorly done and felt hollow. Plus the adolescent actors were really not very good.


  • Garg: it is even better because his cop brother sold himself out to save him!
    I do like that film.

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    In reguards to these types of movies with the same style of intertwining plot lines, here is my top 5.

    1. Crossing Over
    2. Crash
    3. Babel
    4. Magnolia
    5. Sliding Doors


  • Oh : Narnia is way over rated. Assuming it is for children, it’s alright. But losta grown-ups do like it the same. C’mon man !
    Da Vinci Code and sequels are a bit overrated too, but still enjoyable movies.

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    Requiem for a Dream

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Canuck12:

    Requiem for a Dream

    Heard of, have not seen.

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    @Canuck12:

    Requiem for a Dream

    A solid movie, but doesn’t deserve it’s title of “cult classic”.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    You know I watched it… and… well.

    I really kind of found it boring? :S

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    The title doesn’t sound promising.

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    …. from the same director who did “Pi”, and that movie sucked.

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    Yep, bored to shit. 3 people predictably throw away their lives.

    Whoo hoo!

    Though, if you make it all they way to the end without loosing interest, I think there is a scene where Jennifer Connelly gets all kinky with another girl…

    Got a few more to toss out there:

    Kill Bill 1
    Kill Bill 2

    And perhaps the most overrated movie of all time (IMHO):

    Fargo

    Could not really find anything enjoyable about that film, yet somehow it won 2 Oscars and is still revered as a masterpiece. Actually, a lot of the Cohen Brothers films are overrated, and some of Tarantino’s too. It seems like sometimes a director gets recognised as brilliant and then people cant seem to tell when something is crap.

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    OOOh OOH OOH!

    And I forgot!

    SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE!

    WOW! That movie SUCKED! And somehow it won 8 Academy Awards!

    Danny Boyle (who mostly sucks and has no idea how to end a movie without resorting to intense zombie fight-scenes or Indian dance-offs) won best director over David Fincher (who hasn’t really made a mad movie in his career EVER and has some of the most bad-ass movies of all time under his belt (Se7en, Fight Club, etc.)) Which is bullshit!

  • '17 '16 '15 '14 '13 '12

    I watched “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” last night and I still don’t know what happened or how it ended and I watched every second of it.

    I really disliked this movie…a lot. Not sure if it was over-rated but I was very displeased.


  • @Canuck12:

    Yep, bored to ����. 3 people predictably throw away their lives.

    Whoo hoo!

    Though, if you make it all they way to the end without loosing interest, I think there is a scene where Jennifer Connelly gets all kinky with another girl…

    Got a few more to toss out there:

    Kill Bill 1
    Kill Bill 2

    And perhaps the most overrated movie of all time (IMHO):

    Fargo

    Could not really find anything enjoyable about that film, yet somehow it won 2 Oscars and is still revered as a masterpiece. Actually, a lot of the Cohen Brothers films are overrated, and some of Tarantino’s too. It seems like sometimes a director gets recognised as brilliant and then people cant seem to tell when something is crap.

    Coen, not Cohen.

    You didn’t even like the woodshredder scene? :D

    (now Fargo certainly isn’t their best)

    Also i disagree on Tarantino, i know it’s ‘bon ton’ to talk down on successful directors, but his stories, dialogues and set ups always entertain me.

    To be fair, i don’t listen to the voices out there, so i don’t really know what is hyped and what is not, i just like what i like (and dislike what i don’t)

  • '17 '16 '15 '14 '13 '12

    Tarantino only likes only two things in his movies,  long, long dialogue and feet.  Every movie.  Watch.


  • But i like long dialogues :D

    (don’t care much about his foot fetish though, you could be right on that one)


  • @Gargantua:

    I haven’t seen any of them, or the T.V. Shows/spinoffs, or read the book series.

    But I can imagine, that the TWILIGHT series most certainly trumps ANY previously mentioned films as overrated.

    TWILIGHT SHOULD BE ERASED FROM ALL OUR MEMORIES. havnt watch it but just saying.

    ANY and i mean ANY MOVIE with Nicolas Cage is overrated because the movie automatically should receive a rating of 0.1 / 10

    I love the movie boondock saints but it is overrated lmao.

    Recent movies that are overrated: Looper.      it epically failed and was a waste of a good idea, talent, effort and cgi. that movie has plot holes larger than the planet Jupiter.

    also, everyone go to the theaters right now and watch Dredd because its an almost perfect rep of the comic books. watch dredd!!!

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