Global 1940 French Rebalance

simon33

In case anyone is frustrated by the way Paris is handled in all versions of Global, I have developed a slight rebalance to the way it is handled.

Basically these things are changed:

Normandy and Southern France are made original owner Neutral Axis
If Paris has fallen and Normandy is French but has no French units, it becomes Neutral Axis. Similarly for Southern France
If London is taken, the North American territories convert to a Canadian economy, which works like the UK_Pacific economy.

I would think this would only reduce the bids slightly but also eliminate the massive penalty for liberating Paris.

Hopefully this variant will at least raise this issue. I think it is an improvement on BM4.

Parisian-Rebalance.tsvg

simon33

Since there has been some interest here, this change is now uploaded into Triple-A’s global map package.

simon33

Open to feedback on a few points here.

Should we put purchase first or combat more first, don’t love having two variants. Note that I am pretty sure it will be possible to post combat moves from the purchase phase now.
Should we prohibit the move where planes are landed on newly built carriers as is the case in Path to Victory. Kind of follows from the above but I guess we could also ban it in this variant. I note that this is a player enforced rule in Path to Victory
Should we change the cost of tactical bombers to 10.
Should we disable guerrilla fighters by default.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@simon33

Got a question: What do you mean by there being a penalty for liberating Paris? I can only think of upsides, mainly a 12 Industrial Production Credit increase for the Allies.

simon33

@superbattleshipyamato said in Global 1940 Parisian Rebalance:

@simon33

Got a question: What do you mean by there being a penalty for liberating Paris? I can only think of upsides, mainly a 12 Industrial Production Credit increase for the Allies.

If USA owns Normandy they can produce units there. When Paris is liberated, they can’t own Normandy any more.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@simon33

It’s only three units. I thought you meant that, but it doesn’t seem to be that big of a deal. Usually if Germany is strong enough to push the Allies off the coast they won’t be getting to Paris anyway.

And if they do liberate Paris and can hold it, then the penalty doesn’t matter. The Allies are probably strong enough to move units over.

I think using Canada as a second UK is too much. Yes, there were contingencies to move there, but it doesn’t make sense to have Canada as a second capital. I would suggest making Canada like ANZAC from the start.

simon33

@superbattleshipyamato Consider the scenario between those two extremes, where USA can hold Normandy (or Sth France) but not Paris. If it trades Paris with the Axis, USA then loses its ability to produce more units there.

@superbattleshipyamato said in Global 1940 Parisian Rebalance:

I think using Canada as a second UK is too much. Yes, there were contingencies to move there, but it doesn’t make sense to have Canada as a second capital. I would suggest making Canada like ANZAC from the start.

That is an option but it weakens the allies a lot. You would get a lot more sea lions but the sea lion would have a smaller benefit, less plunder.

The Captain

Hi Simon,

I find your idea very interesting concerning Normandy, Southern France & Paris (France).

How many times have you play tested this rule ?

simon33

I have 2 games in progress, played myself once I think.

I am interested in alternative ideas but I think something has to be done to prevent just leaving Normandy French.

General 6 Stars

@simon33 said in Global 1940 Parisian Rebalance:

I have 2 games in progress, played myself once I think.

I am interested in alternative ideas but I think something has to be done to prevent just leaving Normandy French.

Can’t get above file to open up.

General 6 Stars

Here’s what we do in my game if your interested.
This maybe a simple way and maybe not for you guys.
I don’t believe in making Normandy an axis neutral. Historical wise.
If axis controls Normandy and only time is where if allies retake it back place 3 or 4 French inf there for free to represent the French Patriotism and or resistance.
If allies take back Paris place 6 inf there for same thing. But since there’s a major ic maybe just go with the 12 icp rule instead. Not gonna get into other debates on this game.

If you don’t bring enough allies to hold then that’s your fault. Lol

Also if London falls Ottawa becomes new capital and UK can collect money on its end of turn. Wether you make the IC in Quebec a major or make UK have to upgrade it. But only time in game if London falls.

Just my 2 and 1/2 cents.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@general-6-stars

Me too.

And due to my limited information, I can’t understand how those rules solve your problem.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@general-6-stars

That can work. Maybe too many French units though?

General 6 Stars

Then reduce inf. Test it best way. Maybe Simon has an opinion yet.
With 3-4 guys and 12 icps for Paris may not need a bid.
Should of been fixed in first place so no bid but IMO.

simon33

You guys don’t see the problem? I don’t know how I can explain it any clearer.

General 6 Stars

@simon33 said in Global 1940 Parisian Rebalance:

You guys don’t see the problem? I don’t know how I can explain it any clearer.

Ok. I don’t see it. Then maybe I do.
Later

SuperbattleshipYamato

@simon33

I don’t see how creating a quasi-Vichy France will allow the US to continue producing units even if Paris is liberated.

Please elaborate on your rules.

General 6 Stars

Maybe this would help. Lol

SuperbattleshipYamato

@general-6-stars

Is that a custom map? Any more explanation?

Or is that what simon33 posted?

simon33

@superbattleshipyamato said in Global 1940 Parisian Rebalance:

@simon33

I don’t see how creating a quasi-Vichy France will allow the US to continue producing units even if Paris is liberated.

Please elaborate on your rules.

Well, if/when USA lands on Normandy, assuming it can hold it with UK help, it can start producing units there. It can then build up a little and maybe take Southern France also. What it can’t do is proceed to Paris because then USA can no longer produce units in Normandy. Also, being next door to Germany’s major factory is a somewhat higher bar to defend than being next door to the minor factory in Paris which is a candidate for strategic bombing. So there are scenarios where trading Paris would be attractive for the allies but because it stops USA from producing units this does not occur.

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