League General Discussion Thread
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Well I think it should be either enforced or removed.
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@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:
Well I think it should be either enforced or removed.
Why? The default Bid is the standard of how to Bid and is the default if the parties cannot agree on a Bidding process. However, as stated in the rules, ANY Bid arrangements or rule arrangements that both parties agree too can be implemented. Why say it has to be done one way or the other as long as the two parties can agree? The default is only needed when they cannot agree.
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@AndrewAAGamer I wouldn’t be a fan of having to discuss this one before starting bidding.
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@simon33 you don’t have to discuss NG infantry. Just deny the placement if they want to put a troop there and hadn’t requested that exception prior to bidding. Rules are clearly posted on the forum and their job to know they have to ask for exceptions.
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@mikawagunichi said in League General Discussion Thread:
Hello everyone, with the new year and a new support drive beginning, @Stucifer and I have decided to sweeten the pot a bit and generate some interest for our favorite league game variant. For any player who has never played PTV or whose most recent PTV league game was completed in 2023 or earlier, we will pay for a Gold badge for any player who completes 3 PTV games this year. For players who pay for their own badge, we will still make an equivalent dollar amount donation to the forum. Limited to the first 5 sign ups, please DM if interested, thank you!
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Please take advantage of us! 😉
@surfer incentive to complete 3 games 🤓
That's 'cause a droid don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in League General Discussion Thread:
@simon33 you don’t have to discuss NG infantry. Just deny the placement if they want to put a troop there and hadn’t requested that exception prior to bidding. Rules are clearly posted on the forum and their job to know they have to ask for exceptions.
Guess so but if they then don’t want to play is it a loss? We would need @gamerman01 for that one.
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If nobody has made a move in the game, it would be a bit rude to claim a win for a League match. Call it a “no-contest” and move on to an opponent who is capable of reading the rules.
I have certainly had many times where my opponent pointed out rules that I did not fully understand. Sometimes they showed me the statement in the rulebook. Sometimes it was ambiguous and a mod had to make a determination. In all cases, I was able to resolve the interpretation differences and continue playing the match (like most grown-ups are capable of).
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris Guess that’s a reasonable viewpoint. It would make me frustrated to go through the whole bidding process and then not actually have a game though.
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@simon33 Not as frustrating as getting diced on G1 and giving up since you failed a 99% roll on Paris!
Hopefully the unsolvable disagreement over NG is also a 1%-frequency event. I don’t see anyone in the League playoffs who did a NG bid, but haven’t searched through every single match.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris And those scenarios have certainly happened to me.
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Allowing bid units to blank territories or zones is a whole new frontier we don’t want to broach.
New Guinea is an exception that many players like, and allow, but if you have one exception, people will want more.
New Guinea has to be agreed by both players and should be done before bidding, otherwise you would probably need to bid over, yes.I would suggest that players who want the New Guinea bid in play should be the ones stating that before bidding starts, because they are wanting something beyond default league rules.
In the event that you bid against such player and then find out he’s placing an infantry in New Guinea, you would then have to re-bid if you don’t accept it, and you can point out to him that it is not standard.
If you are in a playoff game and hypothetically the New Guinea player will not budge, he would forfeit the game because he refuses to play by league rules. Of course sporting and reasonable adults would work it out with zero animosity, but the answer is ultimately you have to play by the rules, this is how we prevent tug-of-wars
In regular season play, you would simply not start the game.
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Thanks for the discussion guys. It has always irked me slightly about the NG bid but never seemed worth having too much of an argument about.
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The last game I played, I decided to just go ahead and list out all the things I’d place with the bid, and my opponent liked the idea and did the same. With this method, you would know about a New Guinea bid before agreeing to a number
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
The last game I played, I decided to just go ahead and list out all the things I’d place with the bid, and my opponent liked the idea and did the same. With this method, you would know about a New Guinea bid before agreeing to a number
I think that is reasonable for a playoff game but a pain for a regular season match. YMMV.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in League General Discussion Thread:
@simon33 Not as frustrating as getting diced on G1 and giving up since you failed a 99% roll on Paris!
Hopefully the unsolvable disagreement over NG is also a 1%-frequency event. I don’t see anyone in the League playoffs who did a NG bid, but haven’t searched through every single match.
I think most players could find an alternate placement for those 3 IPCs. Otherwise, you could rewind the bid 1 turn, and have the other player take Allies.
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OK, this is actually going to be pretty great.
There is now a pinned thread for
PTV
BM4
OOBThreads devoted to those versions. Talk about characteristics of the version, strategies, your regular season games, and hopefully the PLAYOFFS!
I would think we will enjoy more discussion about each version separately, and also this general discussion thread can be much cleaner and everyone will just be so much happier
ENJOY!
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@Stucifer I will plan on it. Although PTV has just that much more to react to with the additional scramble rules. There is definitely a learning curve. You might take me down the first several games.
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2025 League rules have been updated from 2024.
There are only a couple sentence structure corrections, and proper links provided for the rankings, and that the BM and PTV rules are now located in their respective discussion threads and not on a dedicated pinned thread where it used to be.
Just remembered, the one change being made is @Arthur-Bomber-Harris proposal that the past year champion and runner up are automatic 1 and 2 seeds for the playoff, assuming of course they enter. After that, lifetime ELO score at 12/31.
Thanks, @Arthur-Bomber-Harris , that is a great idea.
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@simon33 I would never allow for that bid and never have. It is like a bid-multiplier, and I wouldn’t accept that.
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