G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread

@simon33:

I’ve seen that a G2 DOW is not optimal in BM but a I’ve been wondering about a G1 attack. Why do you think that isn’t viable in BM?

It’s less viable than in vanilla because of the earlier access to Russian NOs in BM which results in more Russian units being produced. Earlier GDOWs are strictly inferior in BM when compared to vanilla.

@Adam514:

@simon33:

I’ve seen that a G2 DOW is not optimal in BM but a I’ve been wondering about a G1 attack. Why do you think that isn’t viable in BM?

It’s less viable than in vanilla because of the earlier access to Russian NOs in BM which results in more Russian units being produced. Earlier GDOWs are strictly inferior in BM when compared to vanilla.

I don’t know… a GDOW v Rus. R2 can work nicely if you build arm/mech G1… although you tip your hand and ask for a UK full scram…  :-o

What is happening with BM3?

I suspect we might see a lot of G1 DOWs with this mod. I’ll have to have a think about how to stop that move.

Does the new Russian Lend-Lease kicking in “beyond round 2” mean “starting in round 3”? Just want to be sure.  :?

Much thanks to the Mod Squad and Simon! It’s truly amazing what you guys do, and the amount of fun it allows so many of us to enjoy for free. I feel very grateful!  :-D

@Mill:

Does the new Russian Lend-Lease kicking in “beyond round 2” mean “starting in round 3”? Just want to be sure.  :?

Much thanks to the Mod Squad and Simon! It’s truly amazing what you guys do, and the amount of fun it allows so many of us to enjoy for free. I feel very grateful!  :-D

Our pleasure  :-).

Yeah it’s starting on round 3 and need to be at war with Euro Axis. There are still a few bugs with the new NOs, so double check when playing.

I wondered the same thing as Mill Creek
I will edit the wording in the rules post to make it unambiguous now that we have the answer

I was stumbling over that “BM - Combat Move first” map.

And I am wondering whats the motivation behind that change? On first impression it just seems to make the game simpler, or there more to it?

Thanks!

@Elrood:

I was stumbling over that “BM - Combat Move first” map.

And I am wondering whats the motivation behind that change? On first impression it just seems to make the game simpler, or there more to it?

Thanks!

I did that but there was some reluctance to make it the standard move because of a few introduced bugs like needing edit mode to move planes in combat movement such that the only landing spot is a carrier to be mobilised. So both options are supported.

@simon33:

@Elrood:

I was stumbling over that “BM - Combat Move first” map.

And I am wondering whats the motivation behind that change? On first impression it just seems to make the game simpler, or there more to it?

Thanks!

I did that but there was some reluctance to make it the standard move because of a few introduced bugs like needing edit mode to move planes in combat movement such that the only landing spot is a carrier to be mobilised. So both options are supported.

I wasn’t referring to technical difficulties for the engine, but meant what is the motivation to switch the original phase order? To be more specific:

Oztea 41: motivation was to provide an alternative set up with different game dynamics
BM: a more balanced / historical approach where bids of ~ +40 would not be necessary
Combat move first: "…. " ? :)

The motivation is to avoid save/reloads. Often I’m not sure what attacks I’m making and moving the forces in reveals that an attack is or is not viable which can affect your buy. Pretty annoying to have to exit and restart to vary your buy.

Is a G1 DOW stoppable in BM3?

Moves I’d think about are:

• IC on Persia UK2 landing 3 fighters on Moscow UK4. Hmm, if Germany reaches Moscow G4 they’re too late!
• Blocking Vichy
• Flying Calcutta and Med planes to Moscow.
• Qld ftr can reach ANZAC3 with an unprovoked DOW on Japan.
• Buying a UK CV and using it to stage fighters to Moscow.

Apparently I’ve missed the boat!  I had no idea that G1 was optimal now.

:-) Looks like a pretty big over-reaction to me

I’m not convinced. Even compared to OOB you’re losing 2IPC/round NO income on rounds 1&2 as USSR. You’re likely to grab the Persian Route lend lease NO plus the bonus for Japan’s DOW on USSR on Round 3 so you can invest that round 4 for a stand in Moscow round 5.

I intend to find out though.

Note:
@axis-dominion:

I played like 5 league games where I did a G1 attack and I won all but the one against adam. The other opponents were E or 1 tier. I agree it is definitely less viable, but not totally impossible to win.

Well on a typical G1 the Russian Archangel NO is blocked, so in BM3.2 Russia does earn a bit more than in vanilla on a G1DOW.