Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)

Question that has been bugging me. Can a CV ignore a sub in combat and/or escort a TT on an amphibious assault. It has no attack which can hit it so it might not follow that it does/can.

@simon33:

Question that has been bugging me. Can a CV ignore a sub in combat and/or escort a TT on an amphibious assault. It has

no attack which can hit it so it might not follow that it does/can.

Yes to both aspects.

@rulebook:

However, a transport
is not allowed to offload land units for an amphibious
assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy
submarines unless at least 1 warship belonging to the
attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end
of the Combat Move phase.

and

@rulebook:

Doesn’t Block Enemy Movement: The “stealth” ability
of submarines also allows enemy ships to ignore their
presence. Any sea zone that contains only enemy
submarines doesn’t stop the movement of a sea unit.
Sea units ending their combat movement in a sea zone
containing only enemy submarines may choose to attack
them or not. Sea units can also end their noncombat
movement in a sea zone containing only enemy
submarines.

There is no exception for Carriers.

However, there is a situation where the attack value is relevant:

@rulebook:

No Combat Value: Even though a transport can attack or defend, either alone or with other units, it has a combat value
of 0. This means that a transport can’t fire in the attacking units’ or the defending units’ fire steps. Transports may
not attack in a sea battle without being accompanied by at least 1 unit with an attack value.

HTH :-)

Japan has a submarine in sea zone 19, the US brings in 1 loaded transport and 1 loaded carrier to escort the transport landing in Manchuria in order to ignore the sub. Japan takes out the carrier using Kamikaze tokens, so is the landing still legal seeing as the escorting ship was there at the end of Americas combat round?

(I know this is a bit out of place  :| sorry) Does anybody have the first edition setups? I have been wanting those for awhile. Thanks!

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@Young:

Japan has a submarine in sea zone 19, the US brings in 1 loaded transport and 1 loaded carrier to escort the transport landing in Manchuria in order to ignore the sub. Japan takes out the carrier using Kamikaze tokens, so is the landing still legal seeing as the escorting ship was there at the end of Americas combat round?

Correct :-)

(Kamikaze takes place in the Conduct Combat Phase.)

Edit: … you meant, “at the end of Americas combat move”, didn’t you?

@P@nther:

@Young:

Japan has a submarine in sea zone 19, the US brings in 1 loaded transport and 1 loaded carrier to escort the transport landing in Manchuria in order to ignore the sub. Japan takes out the carrier using Kamikaze tokens, so is the landing still legal seeing as the escorting ship was there at the end of Americas combat round?

Correct :-)

(Kamikaze takes place in the Conduct Combat Phase.)

I don’t reckon the rules are clear on that one but I would have thought the landing could not take place. In the interests of fairness perhaps a retreat should be allowed without letting the sub roll on the TT or maybe the sub should indeed get a roll on the TT since there is indeed no escorting warship for the assault.

This is where a phase for declaring Kamikazes and scrambles between Combat Move and Combat would make things clear.

Two hits on the CV from Kami’s? Nasty. The planes will most likely splash.

I guess the major reason to ignore submarines is bombardment - otherwise it probably shouldn’t be possible.

@Young:

Japan has a submarine in sea zone 19, the US brings in 1 loaded transport and 1 loaded carrier to escort the transport landing in Manchuria in order to ignore the sub. Japan takes out the carrier using Kamikaze tokens, so is the landing still legal seeing as the escorting ship was there at the end of Americas combat round?

I have no idea

I also find it weird that a carrier can escort a transport and then ignore the sub (yeah, I know you can) but after all a carrier has an attack value of 0, exactely the same as the tranny. In that case you should be able to defend with the sub and hence kill the carrier

@simon33:

I don’t reckon the rules are clear on that one…
…since there is indeed no escorting warship for the assault.

Maybe here is a misunderstanding: The requirement of an escorting warship is not ‘bound’ to the assault itself that takes place in the Conduct Combat Phase. It is a requirement for the Combat Move Phase, see again:

@rulebook:

However, a transport
is not allowed to offload land units for an amphibious
assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy
submarines unless at least 1 warship belonging to the
attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end
of the Combat Move phase.

Pretty clear, as I think.

This is only the rules of course, I do understand that you do not feel comfortable with that.

Alright, I guess then it is clear. I assumed that the requirement to be escorted was attached to the Combat phase - but it makes perfect sense for it to be attached to the Combat Movement phase. So then it follows that if your TT starts Combat movement in a hostile SZ and is forced to move, it can still move to a SZ with a sub and not attack it.

Now I follow what you were saying with the “Combat phase” above.

Is it acceptable for China to noncombat units into Burma on China 1, before Japan and UK are at war?

TripleA allows it, but I’d like to be sure.

Yes China can, because China is at war with Japan, and the UK is at war with Germany so neither are neutral.

It’s considered an act of war for the UK/ANZ to move into or fly over China, but China has no such concerns (in reverse, moving into UK territories)

Not sure if this has been asked/answered yet. Do air units that start on carriers in a SZ next to a controlled air base gain an extra movement point as well?

@ProtesT:

Not sure if this has been asked/answered yet. Do air units that start on carriers in a SZ next to a controlled air base gain an extra movement point as well?

Nope.

@Mistergreen:

@ProtesT:

Not sure if this has been asked/answered yet. Do air units that start on carriers in a SZ next to a controlled air base gain an extra movement point as well?

Nope.

Because:

@rulebook:

Air Bases
…
Unit Characteristics
Increased Air Unit Range: When taking off from a friendly territory that has an operative air base, air units gain 1 additional
point of movement range. At that point fighters and tactical bombers can move 5 spaces, and strategic bombers can move 7
spaces. Note: Air units on carriers in a sea zone adjacent to a territory containing an air base don’t benefit from this additional
movement range.

Can you go from Central America to Venezuela by land, or does Colombia get in the way?

@srockelmann:

Can you go from Central America to Venezuela by land, or does Colombia get in the way?

Takes two moves via Colombia, at least in Triple-A. Looking at the map image, it’s less clear.

Central America and Venezuela are not adjacent to one another.

@simon33:

@srockelmann:

Can you go from Central America to Venezuela by land, or does Colombia get in the way?

Takes two moves via Colombia, at least in Triple-A. Looking at the map image, it’s less clear.

Are you sure?  I think it’s always been adjacent in Triple A, and using edit mode just now it counts it as 1 move from Central America to Venezuela.
Krieghund’s answer is a big surprise to me.  I’ll have to look at my game board when I get home

I’ll have to look at my game board when I get home

In triplea Central America and Venezuela got a border, on the game board they got a point, in reality they got neither.  :-)

Ugh, guilty of trusting Triple A again