Visiting Battlefields

I’ve been to Hastings, where the last Anglo-Saxon king (Harold II) was defeated by that fellow from Normandy and Britain came under French domination for a while – sort of D-Day in reverse.  I’ve also visited HMS Belfast, the WWII Royal Navy light cruiser that’s moored in the Thames; it particiated in the Battle of North Cape, in which the German battlecruiser Scharnhorst was sunk.  Also visited the former Royal Yacht Britannia in Leith (Edinburgh’s port), which of course isn’t a warship but which did participate (as I recall) in the Falklands War as a hospital ship, and which evacuated about a thousand people from the civil war in Aden in 1986.

And another one…
Another 250 kilo bomb was found ,this time in Munich not Nürnberg like the last one…They had to detonate her in the housing by Schwabing.
3000 peeps evacuated , houses catched some fire, but was imediatly under control by firemens…After all, there are still 100 000 out there, government knows mostly were they are but not release the location because they are afraid of the costs…so they still gamble…

Psalms 91 is all I´M  saying…

@wittmann:

I love Shakespeare’s Richard III.

This may interest you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19561018

Would  be great if they were his remains. I had understood they were lost.
They would not announce it willy nilly, but am sceptical.
Will go and see them if proven. Thanks.
Do you get the BBC news on Twitter?

@wittmann:

Do you get the BBC news on Twitter?

No, I just have a look at their news site periodically.

as you guessed allready correctly, we found another 250 kilo one…it was one from England and hard to find since they only bombed at nighttime…OH these Englanders…

Anyone would have thought you started the damn war!
Must be scary not knowing when another might be found.
I have been sayin for ages I want to see Berlin. Al wants to go too. Soon.
The plan had been to go to Sicily(never been) in 3 weeks. My in laws asked at the last minute if we would take them to Florence.
Grr! Already been this year.
Will I ever see the world?

England did start World War II. :D

Germany only started the war in Poland…

And the war in Poland was started because of the Danzin ‘crisis’.

@Gargantua:

England did start World War II. :D

Germany only started the war in Poland…

And the war in Poland was started because of the Danzin ‘crisis’.

I´m puzzled now, I thought the Polish started all that because they didn´t like the music this certain Radiostation played all the time?!… :? :? :?

anyhow, I think it counts as visiting a battlefield all the time by beeing surrounded by all this dropoffs wich get found more frequently yet…

World War Two was caused by that dreaded Gleiwitz Radio station broadcasting blasphemy and a few dead German political prisoners ( whom Heydrich staged as Polish) left behind to make Germany look good. They looked good till they found out what really happened.

The old Battleship Schleswig-Holstein just happened to be nearby to fire some of the first salvos as it happened to be just off the Polish coastline and about 80% of the German army just happened to be deployed at the Polish border just in case radio broadcasts would get taken over by anti-German polish broadcasters.

Hitler just happened to have detailed plans on destroying Poland.

Himmler just happened to have plans for systematically killing off entire segments of the population.

Yea so Poland started it, or UK who made the mistake of having a treaty with Poland for protection in case of invasion. Yea i got a bridge to sell you too…in Brooklyn. :roll:

@aequItas et veritas: have you been to Berlin? I like all history, but wondered if there was any WW2 museums or sites. What should I see when I go? And whose motto is your username? (Sorry for all the questions. Feel like a nagging wife!)

@Imperious:

World War Two was caused by that dreaded Gleiwitz Radio station broadcasting blasphemy and a few dead German political prisoners ( whom Heydrich staged as Polish) left behind to make Germany look good. They looked good till they found out what really happened.

The old Battleship Schleswig-Holstein just happened to be nearby to fire some of the first salvos as it happened to be just off the Polish coastline and about 80% of the German army just happened to be deployed at the Polish border just in case radio broadcasts would get taken over by anti-German polish broadcasters.

Hitler just happened to have detailed plans on destroying Poland.

Himmler just happened to have plans for systematically killing off entire segments of the population.

Yea so Poland started it, or UK who made the mistake of having a treaty with Poland for protection in case of invasion. Yea i got a bridge to sell you too…in Brooklyn. :roll:

The German-Polish crisis lasted from October 1938 until September 1, 1939, and involved an extensive exchange of notes between the Germans, the Poles, the British, the Italians, and the French. Voluminous records of these attempts at negotiation still exist, intact, and there is no discrepancy between them.

Most of the problems involved Polish refusal to recognize the rights of the various national minorities in Poland – not just ethnic Germans, but Ruthenians, White Russians, Czechs, Jews, and Ukranians, etc., for twenty years. Hundreds of thousands of ex-Polish Ukranians emigrated to Canada, became British subjects, and continued to file complaints with the British government. These problems were very well known and received extensive publicity throughout the 1930s. The German attitude was that if the problems involving Danzig, the Corridor, and the minorities were not solved, Germany would be compelled to resort to war.

The German attack date in 1939 was postponed no less than three times to give the Poles a chance to negotiate. In each case, they refused. Even after the initial German attack, on September 2, 1939, Hitler offered to stop his armies right where they were, on the spot, if the Poles would negotiate (which was extremely dangerous, because if the Poles had done so, and had then stalled until the beginning of the rainy season, the German army would have been nearly immobilized by mud; there were no good roads in Poland). The British refused, demanding unconditional, unilateral German withdrawal, with no concessions or negotiations in return. So Hitler went ahead, the British involved their colonies and dominions while attempting to involve the United States, and 50 million people were killed.

The “Gleiwitz radio station” was NEVER MENTIONED AT ANY TIME IN 1939. The claim, therefore, is that for six years, nobody knew what the whole war was about, until 1945, when somebody named “Alfred Naujocks” signed an “affidavit” at Nuremberg, and disappeared forever! He never appeared as a witness for cross-examination.

It is obvious that this tale was invented to obfuscate or conceal the real causes of the war. Why fake a trivial incident if you’re never going to mention it when you go to war? This is a typical example of Nuremberg “evidence”.

Best sources: KRIEGSURSACHE – KRIEGSCHULD, by Helmut Schröcke; DER KRIEG, DER VIELE VÄTER HATTE, by Gerd Shulze-Rhonhof; and THE FORCED WAR, by David Hoggan. This information is also widely available elsewhere.

SO?

You said nothing that forms a reply to what i posted. Nothing i said is even contradicted or challenged.

You might as well have quoted anybody and replied with Wikipedia. All you did was state some limited information most of us already know and other info with some bent to make another argument that is not being addressed, but the overall tone of my post was to make the point that Germany started by ‘created’ the crisis soon after the Munich Conference and was the primary aggressor.

Perhaps don’t reply unless you have your own point to offer. And perhaps never reply to my posts would be better.

Here is the site where you stole ideas and just copy/paste verbatim because you don’t know facts….
http://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

Click that and see how Gargantua steals ideas off the internet and reposts them as his own…Hilarious!

Best sources: KRIEGSURSACHE – KRIEGSCHULD, by Helmut Schr�cke; DER KRIEG, DER VIELE V�TER HATTE, by Gerd Shulze-Rhonhof; and THE FORCED WAR, by David Hoggan. This information is also widely available elsewhere.

Indeed. Perhaps a better resource is to steal what is printed on the internet and repost it as your own ideas or ones that you summarize after reading all those German language books that you never saw.

Good Grief.  :roll:

I posted that I sourced it from another site.  But it appears not to have posted… ?  I must have copy pasted over the source.

Irrelevant.

It’s a direct counter to your claim, and a fitting response, so I copy pasted it just for you.

World War Two was caused by that dreaded Gleiwitz Radio station broadcasting blasphemy and a few dead German political prisoners ( whom Heydrich staged as Polish) left behind to make Germany look good. They looked good till they found out what really happened.
DIRECTLY COUNTERED BY
It is obvious that this tale was invented to obfuscate or conceal the real causes of the war. Why fake a trivial incident if you’re never going to mention it when you go to war? This is a typical example of Nuremberg “evidence”.

Oh and here’s some of your own medication to swallow from your last post…

You said nothing that forms a reply to what i posted. Nothing i said is even contradicted or challenged.

Nothing you have said has formed a reply to what my post that directly contradicts your version of events.

The only question is if you’re going to freak out again like last time? And when you do, can you upload it to you-tube so we can all watch?

Nice coverup but not working.

Don’t reply to my posts with stolen stuff you got off the internet and which does not even remotely answer my post. IN fact stop replying to me and trying to start nonsense as usual.

Just continue with the joke posts and keep up that post count!

And before you wig out and start sending PM’s perhaps you might want to consider not replying to me. Pretend I’m just another poster but in my case you don’t need to bring the circus act and that stupid plastic axe to grind whatever bothers you.

The only question is if you’re going to backtrack out again like last time? And when you do, can you post that? I see you already have…NM :roll:

You’re the one who admits you lack the comptence to -not reply-, and that you feel compelled to comply, when people call you out for what you are.

It’s ok. My point is proven, and no one’s watching anyways. It’s a win for me.

You’re the one who admits you lack the comptence to -not reply-,

I guess spelling is not the strong suit, Along with having original ideas because you lack knowledge and have to resort to plagiarism to make salient points.

and that you feel compelled to comply, when people call you out for what you are.

No it’s rather i don’t back down from idiots who know little to nothing.

It’s ok. My point is proven, and no one’s watching anyways. It’s a win for me.

You are incapable of making points, you let random plagiarism create points. And yes I’m sure you will reply but this time don’t copy and paste stuff that you didn’t write because History requires knowledge and you admittedly lack education in that department. As far as a ‘win’ you sound like a 12 year old boy playing video games.

What a waste of time.

What a waste of time.

Especially all the useless name calling on your part? I guess it’s because you’ve got nothing else. LOL. Oh well I L.

It’s sad that you -feel the need- to do this everyday, and embarass yourself publically and on record. But be my guest…

There is a reason you have lost -every- conflict you’ve had with me, and continue to lose.

I’ll let your educated disposition determine what people who lose all the time are called.

Yea and i guess since you steal your ideas from the internet, you must have copied that lame, mega-fail response from some other website as usual.

Since you lack education and know little to nothing about History or any subject i guess that’s why all you do as troll here and post silly infantile jokes.

I hope you can get help for your disposition and stop hijacking this thread.

You must feel ashamed of yourself for getting caught plagiarizing. All this energy defending yourself must be bothersome.  Any normal person would have just put up a link… they don’t need to steal ideas they don’t even understand themselves.

Take the meds and turn in. Good night.

Spelling corrections for Gargantua to learn: ( quiz on Friday)

publically is incorrect
publicly is correct

Did you pass the 2nd grade or get kicked out of School?

@wittmann:

@aequItas et veritas: have you been to Berlin? I like all history, but wondered if there was any WW2 museums or sites. What should I see when I go? And whose motto is your username? (Sorry for all the questions. Feel like a nagging wife!)

Its base form is the ancient Greek language and stands for “Truth Justice”
In Latin : VERITAS = TRUTH  ET = AND  (&) AEQUITAS = JUSTICE

To some this is a very powerful combination of words, that have a deep meaning and power of their own.
To others, it is a catch phrase used in the movie Boondock Saints, kindof like a motto.

I believe it is a basis for what most humans should live their life by, day and day. Truth and Justice combined with Love would basically end all crime.

I´ve been a couple of times in Berlin (one time with the wall still up) but I´m not so much the Berlin History buff, ask me about the south of Germany and I should give you way more answers… :-D

Sorry for catching up with you so late on this one.