Are the Canadian units in the out of box rules also converted into American units?
G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread
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I was stumbling over that “BM - Combat Move first” map.
And I am wondering whats the motivation behind that change? On first impression it just seems to make the game simpler, or there more to it?
Thanks!
I did that but there was some reluctance to make it the standard move because of a few introduced bugs like needing edit mode to move planes in combat movement such that the only landing spot is a carrier to be mobilised. So both options are supported.
I wasn’t referring to technical difficulties for the engine, but meant what is the motivation to switch the original phase order? To be more specific:
Oztea 41: motivation was to provide an alternative set up with different game dynamics
BM: a more balanced / historical approach where bids of ~ +40 would not be necessary
Combat move first: "…. " ? :) -
The motivation is to avoid save/reloads. Often I’m not sure what attacks I’m making and moving the forces in reveals that an attack is or is not viable which can affect your buy. Pretty annoying to have to exit and restart to vary your buy.
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Is a G1 DOW stoppable in BM3?
Moves I’d think about are:
- IC on Persia UK2 landing 3 fighters on Moscow UK4. Hmm, if Germany reaches Moscow G4 they’re too late!
- Blocking Vichy
- Flying Calcutta and Med planes to Moscow.
- Qld ftr can reach ANZAC3 with an unprovoked DOW on Japan.
- Buying a UK CV and using it to stage fighters to Moscow.
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Apparently I’ve missed the boat! I had no idea that G1 was optimal now.
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:-) Looks like a pretty big over-reaction to me
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I’m not convinced. Even compared to OOB you’re losing 2IPC/round NO income on rounds 1&2 as USSR. You’re likely to grab the Persian Route lend lease NO plus the bonus for Japan’s DOW on USSR on Round 3 so you can invest that round 4 for a stand in Moscow round 5.
I intend to find out though.
Note:
@axis-dominion:I played like 5 league games where I did a G1 attack and I won all but the one against adam. The other opponents were E or 1 tier. I agree it is definitely less viable, but not totally impossible to win.
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Well on a typical G1 the Russian Archangel NO is blocked, so in BM3.2 Russia does earn a bit more than in vanilla on a G1DOW.
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Round 2&3? I guess. Or would you use a sub as Germany in SZ125 to block it round one? You might lose a plane in SZ111 if you make that trade.
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On a G1 Germany doesn’t go for both 111 and 110. It’s safer than the traditional opening of attacking both 110 and 111.
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On a G1 Germany doesn’t go for both 111 and 110. It’s safer than the traditional opening of attacking both 110 and 111.
or in my current game germany didn’t go for either of them :-)
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On a G1 Germany doesn’t go for both 111 and 110. It’s safer than the traditional opening of attacking both 110 and 111.
Probably goes for 111 though.
Although it seems not always.
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On a G1 Germany doesn’t go for both 111 and 110. It’s safer than the traditional opening of attacking both 110 and 111.
or in my current game germany didn’t go for either of them :-)
Against Pherman? That’s an interesting one. G1 DOW but no assault on Moscow.
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i had 70% odds on moscow, but the avg tuv wasn’t good at all, and so it was too risky. pulled a hitler and went south for the oil fields instead :lol:
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Sounds like the right decision
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The turn 3 restriction on the Lend Lease to Russia doesn’t work, nor makes sense historically. It should be scrapped.
In fact, why was that changed? It basically sets up a huge incentive for a G1 attack on Russia…. Japan sits on its butt and lets Russia steam roll the USSR>
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The turn 3 restriction on the Lend Lease to Russia doesn’t work, nor makes sense historically. It should be scrapped.
In fact, why was that changed? It basically sets up a huge incentive for a G1 attack on Russia…. Japan sits on its butt and lets Russia steam roll the USSR>
Oh come now Karl, surely you’re not saying a G1 can’t be stopped now, are you?
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The turn 3 restriction on the Lend Lease to Russia doesn’t work, nor makes sense historically. It should be scrapped.
In fact, why was that changed? It basically sets up a huge incentive for a G1 attack on Russia…. Japan sits on its butt and lets Russia steam roll the USSR>
Oh come now Karl, surely you’re not saying a G1 can’t be stopped now, are you?
well, I am finding out right now…
Simon33 did a G1 against Russia in our prior game and took moscow easy. I ended up winning that game for other reasons. Now he is trying it again and is looking set to take Moscow again… So…
Just seems too much of an incentive to do a G1. Also, it doesn’t make any sense. Why would the UK not start sending Lend Lease if Germany attacked earlier as opposed to later? If Germany attacked the USSR in 1940, that means no battle of Britain, freeing up considerable UK material.
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G1 is still less viable in BM than it was in vanilla, are we agreed on that? I fail to see how such a small change can suddenly make G1 unstoppable.
It takes time to start the Lend Lease, and UK had convoy problems of their own. That’s an explanation for the Lend Lease delay until round 3.
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G1 is still less viable in BM than it was in vanilla, are we agreed on that? I fail to see how such a small change can suddenly make G1 unstoppable.
It takes time to start the Lend Lease, and UK had convoy problems of their own. That’s an explanation for the Lend Lease delay until round 3.
Yeah, I guess UK in 1940 had issues… but then, it was only 10 months between the end of the battle of Britain and the first Arctic Convoy… I’m pretty sure the UK could have assembled some sort of support in 1940 vs 1941.
Anyway, ShinJi just declared G1 war against the USSR in my newest game, so I have 2 experiments running on this theory that G1 is a strong move in the current BM.
We will find out!
:evil:
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I haven’t played BM3 yet, but just want to be sure I’m getting this correct…
New Lend-Lease restrictions cost USSR either 2 or 4 IPC they used to get first round after a G1 DOW.
Round 2 costs the USSR 2, 4, or 6.
Round 3, the standard German DOW in my experience, the only difference is a better chance for Germany to cost the USSR 2 IPC in Archangel.
A range of 6 to 12 fewer IPCs total, over 3 rounds, for USSR between BM2 and BM3 G1.
Does not seem dramatic. Less dramatic than the new 3 IPC NO each round for Japan it would seem to me.
I’ll watch and wait and see what happens. :-)
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