G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread

[simon33]

@Gamerman01:

To simon - I’m sympathetic to your point about Vichy + Italy taking Paris, so I would suggest that you houserule that no units starting the game in Paris may move

Aren’t you still going to have a problem if Britain chooses to reinforce South France with a plane or two and/or a transport load?  Perhaps you could houserule that too - that Britain is not allowed to reinforce French territories in Europe on UK1.  You might have to give your opponent a concession though, but I bet you can find people to agree to play that way with you

Another alternative that would be more elegant, is to strike the Vichy rule requirement that there are no Allied land units in South France (#3)

Yes moving a transport to SZ93 and landing at least one unit does block Vichy but that requires a sacrifice of other moves for the UK. I would normally use that transport to hit Ethiopia. If you don’t do that, you either have to use the one from SZ39 which means it can’t activate Sumatra or allow Italy to more greatly endanger Egypt.

House ruling it out requires a fair bit of pre-planning. I really only would consider Italy Strong if I end a round in France with no more than 3 units remaining. Perhaps I could vary that but you don’t want to fail to take down France or have to apply air to it.

[simon33]

Perhaps just change the British tank in France to be French?

[CaptainNapalm]

Do marines attack at 2 if attacking by land combined with other troops attacking the same territory amphibiously? Or do marines only get the boost stepping directly off the boat themselves?

[simon33]

Only if they step off the boat themselves.

[CaptainNapalm]

Thanks, buddy!  :-D

[Adam514]

Marines do get the bonus if the battle is considered an amphibious assault, so they do not have to step off the boats themselves if other units are coming from boats.

[simon33]

@Adam514:

Marines do get the bonus if the battle is considered an amphibious assault, so they do not have to step off the boats themselves if other units are coming from boats.

Hmm, ok. I didn’t know that.

[regularkid]

@Adam514:

Marines do get the bonus if the battle is considered an amphibious assault, so they do not have to step off the boats themselves if other units are coming from boats.

Correct. If any aspect of the battle is amphibious, marines get the bonus, even if they come from an adjacent land territory. seems legit.

[CaptainNapalm]

Great! Thanks for the clarification, fellas!  8-)

[gamerman01]

I made a small clarifying edit to the balanced mod rules post
Kid, please let me know if you don’t like what I did - just edit it if you want
The rule does say “during amphibious assaults” but most people are probably like me and think that means the marines have to be unloaded and amphibiously assaulting themselves.  It would be great if the game notes in Triple A could be edited as well - I think this will be difficult to remember otherwise

Very interesting detail…… Makes me think marines should just attack at 2 by themselves in all circumstances, but that would take a coding change

[simon33]

It’s an XML change though isn’t it, not an engine change?

I would guess this “feature” is because the engine only knows that the battle is amphibious rather than the unit.

[gamerman01]

coding change, XML change…… all the same to this luddite

[simon33]

XML is the data. I can change that. I can’t necessarily change the code - requires approval.

[regularkid]

@simon33:

XML is the data. I can change that. I can’t necessarily change the code - requires approval.

please don’t make changes to the xml and then post the results as “balance mod”

[simon33]

I had no plans to do so. Don’t worry.

[JuanSpain]

I like some of the proposals that I read in the thread, like the one Karl mentioned about being able to walk from Sicily to Southern Italy, however, it is soon for me to know how a rule change could impact this new fantastic ruleset.

I played only a few bm games in the last quarter of 2016, and I feel that for me it is a bit soon to judge if it is really balanced or not, on one hand because I need more games, and on the other hand because my Allies are weaker than my Axis.

I want to congratulate the creators of this version, the small amount of games played showed me that BM 2.0 is a lot of fun and it is a great A&A.

Just for those with curiosity, after these tests, for 2017 league I decided playing only BM, easy wins with Axis in 2nd edition is good, but not fun. I suggest all players with doubts on it, to do the same, no matter we collect a lot of defeats!!

The second decision for 2017 league has been playing only switch sides game pairs, to ensure sufficient practise with Allies (that I particularly need). I started the first pair of 2017 league games already with my friend JWW, who I think is on similar level now as mine.

I wish you all and your families a fantastic 2017! full of health and prosperity,

and including great A&A gaming moments!

Thank you all for making it not only possible, but excellent!

Juan

[Shin-Ji]

Apologies if this has been asked before, but in a Vichy situation, where Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco are all pro-Axis neutrals, can a Mech infantry that begins the turn in Tunisia move through Algeria and Morocco, activating the Inf in both places, in a single move?

[gamerman01]

No, because neutral rules apply, and you can never drive through a friendly neutral the turn you activated it, not even with a tank

This is true whether there is neutral infantry there or not

[Shin-Ji]

Ah, thanks!

[aequitas-et-veritas]

I was wondering if there had been any thought about another Inf unit like the Marine i.e. for the European side such as an Elite unit?

I see Marines are used a lot but mainly on Pac. side and if used on european side it is mostly used by the US.
The Unit (Marine) is therefore more a Allied supporting unit then a general unit for all nations.
Or am I wrong about this or just missing something??