@mr-kell
I also thought of that. I think that’s a good idea.
MOVIES 2016
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@CWO:
@Imperious:
Movies that shake the camera are indicative of a new approach to save money on special effects. If it shakes, it means basically it was filmed in a closet and they had no money for anything.
When I first started running into these kinds of messy action sequences a few years ago, my reaction at the time was to wonder: is this a case of a bad film editor wrecking a well-directed sequence or is this a case of a badly-directed sequence that even a good film editor wasn’t able to save? I’ve gradually come to the conclusion that the answer is actually: it’s intentional, and the director and the editor are both doing it.
Agreed, however in the case of Bourne, I do not believe it was a cheap technique to hide a lack of funds for the project. They had $120 mil to work with on a predominantly, if not exclusively, practical effects movie.
As I said, Paul Greengrass (director) is known for employing this “technique” in his films. I get that it is supposed to be visceral; putting us in the action and confusion, but when you use it constantly something is wrong. It is my opinion that Greengrass wants the film to feel visceral and frenetic, like his other Bourne films, to convey the subject matter. But he completely doubled down on the approach and thought if it worked mostly in the old ones, let’s do it the whole time in this one! That’s why people love the Bourne movies!
No. No it is not.
I feel like this all started with Saving Private Ryan. At least that is where I first remember seeing the POV/shaky cam. Spielberg did a great job putting us in the landing craft and on the beach at Normandy. People were amazed at how real it felt. Use of the shaky cam in that scene was incredibly appropriate and well done; many of those seeing the film were there in 1944 and this instantly transported them back. Since 1998, the POV and shaky cam has been used to good effect and bad. When used properly (I believe most effectively in juxtaposition), it is great and emphasizes the tangibility of a scene. When you are Paul Greengrass and use it through your whole film, it just looks like a jumbled mess of someone attaching a camera to their forehead while being chased by velociraptors: head always on a swivel, eyes twitching and flinching at every sound. And the very swift editing and cutting in between viewpoints only made the shaking that much worse.
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In saving Ryan, it was used for two things: to create the confusion of the actual landings as to what was about to befall the soldiers, and second because they simply didn’t have 25 landing craft and 5,000 actors dressed in uniforms to perform ( like in longest day). So in this case, it worked.
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@Imperious:
In saving Ryan, it was used for two things: to create the confusion of the actual landings as to what was about to befall the soldiers, and second because they simply didn’t have 25 landing craft and 5,000 actors dressed in uniforms to perform ( like in longest day). So in this case, it worked.
That is true. Even though it wasn’t the same physical scope as Longest Day, the myopic perspective hinted at enough extra stuff going on in the chaos that it worked. Spielberg pulled it off well.
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HACKSAW RIDGE NOVEMBER 2016.
Who is with me?
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@aequitas:
HACKSAW RIDGE NOVEMBER 2016.
Who is with me?
Looks good, Let’s see if Mel Gibson can get his career together at least as a director (his acting days may be long gone). Looks like a lot more action than say Broken, and I definitely liked Mel’s direction with battle scenes when he did Braveheart.
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Was Broken a good film? “Enjoyed” the book, but never went to see the film.
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@Private:
Was Broken a good film? “Enjoyed” the book, but never went to see the film.
Broken or UNbroken?
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Unbroken it must be Hoff, since that is the theme.
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@Private:
Unbroken it must be Hoff, since that is the theme.
Unbroken is the one about Louis Zamperini, POW of the Japanese in WWII.
I read the book also and enjoyed it, so to speak. Haven’t seen the film, but from what I have heard from others who read the book and saw the film: they said the film was okay, but it tended to compress the events of the book and transition abruptly between places and situations. FWIW.
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That’s the one Hoff. It is an incredible story.
Thanks for sharing that feedback.
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Finally got to see Jason Bourne.
It was rather disappointing, being an average thriller not up to the previous Damon/Greengrass standard. But I did not have Hoff’s problem with the hand-held camera work, which I thought no worse than in the previous films.
Struggling to find films I want to see at the moment, so hope for a recommendation or two here!
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@Private:
Finally got to see Jason Bourne.
It was rather disappointing, being an average thriller not up to the previous Damon/Greengrass standard. But I did not have Hoff’s problem with the hand-held camera work, which I thought no worse than in the previous films.
Struggling to find films I want to see at the moment, so hope for a recommendation or two here!
Can’t recommend it really, since I haven’t seen it, but the new one “Sully” that just came out looks pretty cool. It’s about the captain who landed his A320 on the Hudson River in New York after a bird strike disabled both engines after takeoff.
I have an aviation background plus it was directed by Clint Eastwood; so those are both reasons for me. EDIT: Oh jeez… how could I forget the other reason: Tom Hanks. Suppose that goes without saying of course.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sully/
Looking pretty solid on RT right now too. 89% liked.
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Thanks for that Hoff. I will await that with interest. Certainly has a good pedigree.
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Want to recommend “Queen of Katwe”. The true story of a chess champion from a Ugandan slum who becomes an international grand master. All without any formal schooling.
Having lived in Africa I found it a very authentic and moving film.
It is not a war film or Star Wars, but perhaps someone out there is willing to try something different! :wink:
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Okay, this isn’t a 2016 movie, but the trailer just came out so take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-eMt3SrfFU
Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk
I have been looking forward to seeing what this movie is going to be like, since up until now, we really haven’t seen much of anything.
Mr. Nolan does not disappoint. Wow does this film look amazing. And the subject matter fits our forum. More than that, Dunkirk is not or has never been treated to such high profile cinematic exposure.
The cast looks excellent. Particularly Brannagh, Hardy and Murphy. Can’t wait.
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Thanks for this Hoff. Nolan’s films are always worth seeing - and I certainly will!
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@Private:
Thanks for this Hoff. Nolan’s films are always worth seeing - and I certainly will!
My pleasure!
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Wow is right ! Whoever put that together gets an A+
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