League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

That’s cool, and I want YOU to set it up LOOOOL

I have a lot going on!!

[Stucifer]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Game Loaded
        1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone

    Airborne Attack Move - Germans
        EDIT: Preparing Airbases for Possible Scrambling
        EDIT: Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                EDIT: 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                EDIT: 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

EDIT: : 0.50

Savegame

[Stucifer]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

That’s cool, and I want YOU to set it up LOOOOL

I have a lot going on!!

Fair, posting it here so everyone can see how it works!

[Stucifer]

So subs got 1 hit, then other units got 2 hits, so UK would have 3 hits to assign as casualties here.

I get an OOL from my opponent, put those in, then keep rolling. Perhaps he chooses to keep the destroyer since I have the 2 subs, so let’s assume that.

[Stucifer]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Game Loaded
        1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone

    Airborne Attack Move - Germans
        EDIT: Preparing Airbases for Possible Scrambling
        EDIT: Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                EDIT: 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                EDIT: 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits
            EDIT: Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                EDIT: 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
            EDIT: Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
            EDIT: 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 114 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

EDIT: : 1.00

Savegame

[gamerman01]

I tested it too, big combo battle with subs on both sides, air on both sides, destroyers only on one side. It was a pretty complicated affair.
But it is a lot more like playing the game on a board. You count up hits and assign casualties at the time they’re supposed to be assigned.
Too bad Triple A isn’t set up this way automatically, and too bad it doesn’t conveniently keep the tally of hits that must be assigned to ships, or must not be assigned to subs, BUT

In many scenarios this will be the best way to go.

Summary:
Roll mixed fleet battles in Edit mode.
Click through (don’t assign any hits) premature casualty choice prompts (subs hit and don’t have surprise strike because of enemy destroyers, or planes hit without accompanying destroyers)
until you’re at the place where casualties need to be assigned.
You need to count up the hits and assign them legally. Since you’re in edit mode you don’t have to, as you don’t have a computerized check on you here.
Assign sub hits to ships only. Assign plane hits to non-subs only, when there is no friendly destroyer to the planes present.

This is the way to keep all dice and everything inside Triple A without editing units off the board. It keeps the battle in the history.
But you ARE in edit mode, so human error can happen.

[FlyingBadger]

Thanks @barnee @gamerman01 and @Stucifer. Following along with your discussion and testing out that save in TripleA I see now how this works and feel confident enough to do this now in an actual game.

[simon33]

@gamerman01 Guess that’s an option. I just think you are making it more difficult than it needs to be in >90% of cases. Just use the assumption rules which are already there in the league rules. In most cases it is obvious anyway.

[gamerman01]

I don’t play many games a year, and it happens to me rather frequently. It was a significant annoyance, but the edit mode solution takes care of it entirely

Thanks for your ideas, Simon, always appreciated

[gamerman01]

I mean, sure, many times it’s a hit to a battleship anyway. I do understand what you mean about it often not being an issue.

But I’ve found that it too often is an issue. It’s nowhere near 90% in my experience.

Regardless,

1. league rules have been amended a bit,
2. the edit mode solution is starting to be spread, and most importantly,
3. various players discovered they had assumed Triple A was following the rules and consequently learned how the game is supposed to be played. And it is a significant difference to game play and strategy, to be sure.

[barnee]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

various players discovered they had assumed Triple A was following the rules and consequently learned how the game is supposed to be played. And it is a significant difference to game play and strategy, to be sure.

:)

[gamerman01]

It has come to my attention that a player who uses a different link to the ELO standings spreadsheet than the one posted in the League rules has a different, and lesser, experience.

A link posted by MrRoboto in his unveiling thread was one such link,
That did not give the user the ability to enter a name into the “results” tab.

This is a very important feature that all are intended to have access to, the ability to type in your own or any other gamer’s name and see their complete detail history in the league, across all versions, which now includes Classic!

Use the link in the League rules, to ELO rankings, towards the top of the rules.

[simon33]

Are league players aware that for quite a while Triple-A has had an autosave feature. After every move phase, before and after battle phases and at the end of a turn a save is made automatically into the “autoSave” subdirectory of the default save game directory/folder.

[AndrewAAGamer]

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Use the link in the League rules, to ELO rankings, towards the top of the rules.

Thank you @gamerman01!!! That is very useful information!!!

[Martin]

@simon33 yes - this saved me a few times, when I forgot to save the game 👍

[Stucifer]

Back from my weekend playing PTV live, but will need a few days to catch up on work & then league games with y’all: @surfer @Ghostglider @Argothair @666 @crockett36 @GeneralDisarray

[dawgoneit]

Where do I find our latest stats?
I want to no how many of each game I’ve played.

[Martin]

The rankings used to be stickied and easy to find. Unfortunately they are now “hidden” in the 2025 league rules. Click on the ELO rating.

[dawgoneit]

@Martin i did that. its not that clear to me.

[Martin]

@dawgoneit

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Larckt6iOuBZtZ-AVzDPv-HEofZJdeN8ptXXotun0Og/htmlview#gid=0