Napoleon 19 France+20

[Elrood]

Spain is ready to realize this game is over for us.

I rather try again after I learned the lessons here.

[redrum]

Is that GG then and we should re-roll teams?

[Colt45554]

No, if elrood wants to withdraw, someone else will continue for him

[redrum]

@colt45554 Ok, I think Corvettes should be able to retreat after round 1 of battle so I think the 3 Corvettes should be edited back in.

[Colt45554]

right, list the sea zone you want and prussia or someone can do it later

[redrum]

@colt45554 Ok, I’ll take a look in a bit. I think it should only impact France/Spain so just need to do it before France’s go.

[Elrood]

@colt45554 : no no, we can resume.

But slowly, after all these SNAFUs it starts feeling like we play “not to lose” and not “to win”.

We discovered that Private Panic had an old version of the engine until a few days ago. That did screw up our savegames in a 1914 game where suddenly Subs acted like normal ships (no first strike). And gas has no first strike either and is not removed after 1st round of battle (as it should).

We has now the latest Engine running, but the savegame, once corrupted does not go back to normal.

Just fyi, my observations.

[Elrood]

With “we” and “us” I do not mean the spanish, but the carolingans ;-)

[redrum]

Leave 1 in each of the 2 sea zones that were attacked (sz44, sz45) and move 1 north to sz40.

[Degrasse]

TripleA Turn Summary: KingdomOfPrussia round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by UnitedKingdom to SZ40: 1 Corvette
        EDIT: Adding units owned by UnitedKingdom to SZ45: 1 Corvette
        EDIT: Adding units owned by UnitedKingdom to SZ44: 1 Corvette
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 Fusilierss moved from Prussia to Pomerania
        1 Fusiliers moved from Prussia to Pomerania
        1 Artillery moved from Brandenburg to Pomerania

    Purchase Units - KingdomOfPrussia
        KingdomOfPrussia buy 1 Dragoons, 1 Fortress, 2 Fusilierss and 1 Mortella_Tower; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - KingdomOfPrussia
        Battle in Pomerania
            KingdomOfPrussia attack with 1 Artillery and 3 Fusilierss
            Sweden defend with 1 Fusiliers
                KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Artillery and 3 Fusilierss in Pomerania, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Pomerania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the Sweden and 1 Fusiliers owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Pomerania
            KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Pomerania from Sweden with 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Fusiliers
            Casualties for Sweden: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
        1 Fusiliers moved from Krakow to Lodomeria
        1 Dragoons moved from Krakow to Brandenburg
        1 Fusiliers moved from Silesia to Brandenburg

    Place Units - KingdomOfPrussia
        2 Fusilierss and 1 Mortella_Tower placed in Brandenburg
        1 Dragoons and 1 Fortress placed in Prussia

    Turn Complete - KingdomOfPrussia
        KingdomOfPrussia collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

KingdomOfPrussia regular : 2.00
Sweden regular : 0.67

Savegame

[Degrasse]

I tried to follow the discussion and edit the corvettes back in correctly, but please check my work.

Thanks

[redrum]

@degrasse Looks good.

[Private-Panic]

Yes - sorry everyone. @Elrood is right - I was running an old version of triple a. :clown_face:

[Entek]

TripleA Turn Summary: Sweden round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Combat Move - Sweden
        2 Chasseurss and 1 Fusiliers moved from Hanover to Hesse
        2 Mariness moved from Svealand to SZ6
        1 Barque moved from SZ9 to SZ6
        1 Fusiliers moved from Svealand to SZ6
        1 Barque, 1 Battleship, 2 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 2 Cutters, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness moved from SZ6 to SZ9
        1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness moved from SZ9 to Pomerania

    Purchase Units - Sweden
        Sweden buy 3 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat - Sweden
        Battle in Pomerania
            Sweden attack with 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
            KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Battleship in Pomerania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness in Pomerania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss in Pomerania, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 Marines owned by the Sweden, 1 Artillery owned by the KingdomOfPrussia and 1 Fusiliers owned by the Sweden lost in Pomerania
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Marines in Pomerania, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 2 Fusilierss in Pomerania, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 Marines owned by the Sweden lost in Pomerania
            KingdomOfPrussia win with 2 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
            Casualties for Sweden: 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
            Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Artillery

    Non Combat Move - Sweden
        1 Dragoons moved from Norway to Vastra Gotaland
        1 Chasseurs moved from Norway to Bohus
        1 Artillery moved from Norway to Bohus
        1 Barque and 1 Battleship moved from SZ3 to SZ6

    Place Units - Sweden
        3 Fusilierss placed in Hanover
        2 Mariness placed in Svealand

    Turn Complete - Sweden
        Sweden collect 23 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

KingdomOfPrussia regular : 1.50
Sweden regular : -1.33

Savegame

[Private-Panic]

TripleA Turn Summary: AustrianEmpire round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
        1 Fusiliers moved from Venetia to Lombardy
        1 Horse_Artillery moved from Slovenia to Lombardy
        1 Cuirassiers moved from Slovenia to Lombardy
        1 Hussars moved from Slovenia to Lombardy

    Purchase Units - AustrianEmpire
        AustrianEmpire buy 1 Dragoons, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer and 2 Hussarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - AustrianEmpire
        Battle in Lombardy
            AustrianEmpire attack with 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
            France defend with 1 Fusiliers
                AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars in Lombardy, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Lombardy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the France and 1 Hussars owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Lombardy
            AustrianEmpire win, taking Lombardy from France with 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Hussars
            Casualties for France: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
        2 Fusilierss moved from Zala to Slavonia
        2 Howitzers moved from Hungary to Slavonia
        1 Marines moved from Hungary to Slavonia
        1 Artillery moved from Hungary to Slavonia
        2 Fusilierss moved from Hungary to Slavonia
        1 Howitzer moved from Bohemia to Saxony
        4 Fusilierss moved from Bohemia to Saxony
        1 Artillery moved from Austria to Bohemia
        1 Fusiliers moved from Austria to Bohemia
        1 Horse_Artillery moved from Slovenia to Venetia
        1 Dragoons moved from Slovenia to Venetia
        1 Cuirassiers moved from Slovenia to Venetia
        1 Hussars moved from Slovenia to Venetia
        1 Horse_Artillery moved from Austria to Slovenia
        2 Hussarss moved from Austria to Slovenia

    Place Units - AustrianEmpire
        1 Dragoons and 1 Hussars placed in Zala
        3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer and 1 Hussars placed in Austria

    Turn Complete - AustrianEmpire
        AustrianEmpire collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

France regular : 0.67
AustrianEmpire regular : -0.17

Territory Summary for AustrianEmpire :

Slavonia : 1 Artillery, 1 Fortress, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Howitzers and 1 Marines
Bosnia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
Saxony : 2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss, 11 Fusilierss, 1 Grenadiers and 4 Howitzers
Bohemia : 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
Lombardy : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery
Zala : 1 Dragoons, 1 General and 1 Hussars
Transylvania : 1 Fusiliers
Austria : 1 Capital, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 1 Hussars and 2 Mortella_Towers
Venetia : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Dragoons, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
Salzburg : 1 Fortress
Hollande : 2 Mortella_Towers
Bavaria : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
Slovenia : 1 Dragoons, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Hussarss

Savegame

[Witt]

TripleA Turn Summary: OttomanEmpire round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
        1 Fusiliers moved from Anatolia to Smyrna
        1 Howitzer moved from Constantinople to SZ92
        1 Marines moved from Constantinople to SZ92
        1 Barque, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines moved from SZ92 to SZ85
        1 Howitzer and 1 Marines moved from SZ85 to Smyrna

    Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
        OttomanEmpire buy 2 Artillerys, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 2 Hussarss and 1 Mortella_Tower; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - OttomanEmpire
        Battle in Smyrna
            OttomanEmpire attack with 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines
            UnitedKingdom defend with 2 Mariness
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines in Smyrna, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                UnitedKingdom roll dice for 2 Mariness in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in Smyrna
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Marines in Smyrna, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Marines in Smyrna, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom and 1 Howitzer owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Smyrna
            OttomanEmpire win, taking Smyrna from UnitedKingdom with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 2 Mariness
            Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Howitzer

    Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
        1 Fusiliers moved from Sinop to Anatolia
        1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss moved from Lazes to Karamania
        1 Horse_Artillery moved from Bulgaria to Wallachia
        4 Artillerys, 1 Chasseurs, 3 Dragoonss, 4 Fusilierss, 2 Horse_Artillerys, 5 Hussarss and 1 Marines moved from Moldavia to Wallachia
        1 Marines moved from Moldavia to Bulgaria
        1 Artillery and 5 Fusilierss moved from Bulgaria to Wallachia
        5 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
        1 Barque moved from SZ87 to SZ86

    Place Units - OttomanEmpire
        2 Artillerys placed in Bulgaria
        2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 2 Hussarss and 1 Mortella_Tower placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
        OttomanEmpire collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

UnitedKingdom regular : 0.00
OttomanEmpire regular : 0.00

Territory Summary for OttomanEmpire :

Wallachia : 7 Artillerys, 1 Chasseurs, 3 Dragoonss, 13 Fusilierss, 3 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 5 Hussarss and 1 Marines
SZ98 : 1 flag
Armenia : 1 flag
SZ86 : 1 Barque and 1 Frigate
Albania : 1 Fusiliers
SZ85 : 1 Barque
SZ92 : 1 Cutter
Constantinople : 1 Capital, 1 Fortress, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 2 Hussarss and 1 Mortella_Tower
SZ93 : 1 Brigantine
Serbia : 1 Fusiliers
Bulgaria : 2 Artillerys, 5 Fusilierss, 1 General and 1 Marines
Moldavia : 1 Fusiliers
Smyrna : 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
Hellas : 1 Chasseurs
Karamania : 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss
Anatolia : 1 Fusiliers and 1 Mortella_Tower
Thessaly : 1 Chasseurs, 1 Fortress and 1 Howitzer

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 60 / 56
UnitedKingdom : 53 / 52
Spain : 36 / 26
KingdomOfPrussia : 22 / 22
Sweden : 23 / 25
AustrianEmpire : 32 / 32
OttomanEmpire : 34 / 34
Russia : 31 / 32

Savegame

[aequitas-et-veritas]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russia round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Combat Move - Russia
        1 Fusiliers moved from Bessarabia to Moldavia
        1 Hussars moved from Kiev to Moldavia
        2 Fusilierss moved from Karelia to SZ2
        2 Fusilierss moved from SZ2 to Ingria
        1 Dragoons moved from Novgorod to Ingria

    Purchase Units - Russia
        Russia buy 3 Fusilierss and 5 Hussarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Russia
        Battle in Ingria
            Russia attack with 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss
            Sweden defend with 1 Fusiliers
                Russia roll dice for 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss in Ingria, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Ingria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss in Ingria, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Ingria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia lost in Ingria
                Russia roll dice for 1 Dragoons and 1 Fusiliers in Ingria, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Ingria, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia lost in Ingria
                Russia roll dice for 1 Dragoons in Ingria, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Sweden roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Ingria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the Sweden lost in Ingria
            Russia win, taking Ingria from Sweden with 1 Dragoons remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Russia: 2 Fusilierss
            Casualties for Sweden: 1 Fusiliers
        Battle in Moldavia
            Russia attack with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Hussars
            OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers
                Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Hussars in Moldavia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Hussars owned by the Russia lost in Moldavia
                Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Moldavia, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia lost in Moldavia
            OttomanEmpire win with 1 Fusiliers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
            Casualties for Russia: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Hussars

    Non Combat Move - Russia
        1 Artillery, 2 Dragoonss and 1 Howitzer moved from Odessa to Bessarabia
        1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs, 2 Cuirassierss, 1 Dragoons, 4 Fusilierss, 2 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer and 3 Hussarss moved from Kiev to Bessarabia
        3 Hussarss moved from Moscovia to Kiev
        2 Hussarss moved from Minsk to Lodomeria
        1 General moved from Minsk to Volhynia
        1 Cuirassiers and 3 Dragoonss moved from Novgorod to Minsk

    Place Units - Russia
        3 Fusilierss placed in Kiev
        2 Hussarss placed in Volhynia
        3 Hussarss placed in Moscovia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russia to Volhynia: 1 Cuirassiers and 3 Dragoonss
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russia from Minsk: 1 Cuirassiers and 3 Dragoonss
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russia
        Russia collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

OttomanEmpire regular : 0,67
Russia regular : -2,00
Sweden regular : 0,67

Savegame

[Colt45554]

someone correct me if im wrong but i thought corvettes can only retreat to non-hostile sea zones? shouldn UK corvs be in 41 or 40?

[redrum]

@colt45554 I thought they can either submerge in their current SZ or retreat to any non-hostile SZ?

[Colt45554]

@redrum No, i just double-checked and they cant remain in the sea zone they were attacked in