Generally pacific builds consists of a 2 to 1 ratio of subs-destroyer. Following turn is 5-6 bombers. This forces Japan to start building fleet instead of troops for India/China crush.
I just had to give som additional thumbs up fo9r this comment :D Buying other combat ships than subs, dds (Or CW + ftrs) is rarely correct. the 2 to 1 ratio shos that sean knows how fodder works and how it is the most important thing in these battles.
The only reason to stop buying the subs is if japan for some reason dont respond with fleetbuilding and only buys planes instead. But then you should win anyways :D
which is why i said that it didn’t work against a too planeheavy japan. on theory, the DDs + other surface ships ofc needs to be enough to stop all the planes of japan + 2 rounds of plane only builds of japan.
What would prevent japan from attacking your fleet of subs-destroyers with air and a few destroyers. With 20+ planes they can whipe out your whole fleet with minimal losses as subs cant even hit the planes.
I normaly go for a carrier heavy fleet followed by subs destroyers for attacking power. Ideally i want my carriers to bait an early attack from japan that i can crush in the counter and get his carriers and BB out of the way so anzac and UKP can clean up the rest.
Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris
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It says so in the setup, just seems a bit weird, as well as the Japanese sub together with the US fleet starting in the same sea zone.
Another question, does the Sino-Sovjet Pact still apply or are Japan and Russia at War. The rules state
“ALL Powers begin the game AT WAR. Both the Soviet Union and the US may attack anyone from the onset of the game.”
which doesn’t sepcifically adress this, but it reads like no penalty for attacking JAP/USSR -
@Lydian said in Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris:
It says so in the setup, just seems a bit weird, as well as the Japanese sub together with the US fleet starting in the same sea zone.
But that is a pretty common scenario in the game, that we have the “sea units starting in hostile sea zones-rules” for.
Another question, does the Sino-Sovjet Pact still apply …
I am not sure what you are talking about. Can you please cite from the rulebook what you are addressing here?
… or are Japan and Russia at War.
The rules state “ALL Powers begin the game AT WAR. Both the Soviet Union and the US may attack anyone from the onset of the game.” which doesn’t sepcifically adress this, but it reads like no penalty for attacking JAP/USSRAgain, would you please clarify your issue here?
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@Panther Sure, it is just the only standard A&A Edition I’m aware of, that features opposing forces in the same territory at setup.
Sino-Sovjet Pact - darn, that’s WarRoom. Sovjet-Mongolian Defense Pact from the Global40 rules is what I meant
thanks for answering
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@Lydian said in Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris:
Sovjet-Mongolian Defense Pact from the Global40 rules is what I meant
Yes, those rules of the Soviet-Mongolian Defense Pact still apply in the 1942 setup. They do not address questions of being at war, but consequences of attacks in special territories.
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@simon33 Well I set up my boards and studied Japans options.I think this is my J1.
1 buymic/tt/cv/2ss=47 ipcs
combat moves
3inf/fig/tb/sb>yunan plan to land air fic5inf /2art/fig>anweh land fig fic
sz 49 attack USN BB/tt/ca/dd with all ships in sz47 ss/dd/ca. Make sure to pass through sz 46 in case of retreat.Add 3 fig from sz 42 and 33.Make sure at least dd survives to block USN from sz26(hawaii)
sz62 attack Anz dd/tt with ss from sz49 and ca from sz 33. If anz hits 1, lose the ca.There should be no destroyer left nearby and sub can convoy sz62
last walk 1 inf into each> chahar,hunan,and from siam>shan state
noncom
use 2 tt to drop land units >kiangsi sz20
bb&2cv>sz 46 fill both cvs from sz49 and planes that did’nt participate in battle.
dd /bb and loaded cv from sz6>sz 35
dd sz19> sz6. keep adequate air @sz6/japanplace mic fic and ships sz6
I like this b/c it strands a lot of US units at solomon Is. and threatens Anzac.I invite all to comment and disect
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@ampdrive attacking the USA on the open usually ends up as an even trade, whether you attack Solomons or pearl harbor. Japan usually ends up weaker for trading ship/ship with the USA.
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I see your point.I think I’ll forget attacking sz62.Instead send to sz49 2ss,1dd,3 fgt vrs bb,ca,dd,tt.Japan loses likely 2ss,1 fgt+the dd on USA counter.
NCM up to 2 ca to sz46 to protect IJN (2 loaded cvs+bb)
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Japan lost 4 carriers at Midway in 42, so why still so strong in this setup?
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And UK navy takes huge brutal beating in 42 v. 40.
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I think versions of A&A starting in 1942 begin before battle of midway and after German defeat at Moscow.Sort of April or May 1942.
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I have a feeling GENCON will be canceled but if not I will be there.
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How you play 1942 depends on how many turns you plan to play. In tournament its around 6-8. Not enough time to get capital victory unless a complete failure on dice or strategy. I have a new plan this year and its completely based on the length of the game.
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@taamvan said in Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris:
@ampdrive attacking the USA on the open usually ends up as an even trade, whether you attack Solomons or pearl harbor. Japan usually ends up weaker for trading ship/ship with the USA.
On a game with fixed turns taking Hawaii turn 1 is a must at 86% and 3-4 casualties.
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@ampdrive ah, ok. thx
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Hey all.
New to the forums. Love Axis & Allies. I have played several board versions, TripleA and steam.Going to play Larrys Global 1942 setup in a couple of weeks on a lovely LT.Dan / Siredblood map print.
Is Larrys 1942 variant still considered to be a fairly balanced setup by the community?
I find it a bit weird that the US player so easily can take out two german subs before the german player can use them at all.
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Hi @dead-head said in Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris:
I find it a bit weird that the US player so easily can take out two german subs before the german player can use them at all
I remember this being talked about but forget the opinions. You could do a search here and maybe find it.
Also, Oztea has a 42 setup if you wanna give it a roll sometime.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/20575/oztea-s-1942-global-setup?_=1651779408535 -
@dead-head said in Global 1942 Scenario by Larry Harris:
Hey all.
New to the forums. Love Axis & Allies. I have played several board versions, TripleA and steam.Going to play Larrys Global 1942 setup in a couple of weeks on a lovely LT.Dan / Siredblood map print.
Is Larrys 1942 variant still considered to be a fairly balanced setup by the community?
I find it a bit weird that the US player so easily can take out two german subs before the german player can use them at all.
I want that destroyer in SZ 101 to be a cruiser, lol.No. I’m doing a advance 42 game. I’m looking at in my setup moving 1 German sub from Baltic (3 on Setup) ( have convoy boxes) to the sea zone in Atlantic ( 2 subs already there ) where they have the option of bringing 3 subs to US coast and only 2 going towards UK fleet turn 1. Since if this game does start technically early 42 then Germany was at there peak in subs in the Atlantic. The German bomber stays in Berlin plus I have a paratrooper there to give Germany another option for that bomber.
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They are playing BBR on his map this weekend.
I’m headed to Gencon to play in the G42 tournament. It is worth playing and those two subs have killed the dd before. If you feel that its imbalanced you can use a bid. Its a faster game–and you can use the tournament rules to keep it to 8 turns/1 day, I recommend it.
https://headlesshorseman2.com/uploads/3/4/0/0/34000156/glenoverlot42.6.21.pdf
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Where is the setup charts for this ?
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https://headlesshorseman2.com/uploads/3/4/0/0/34000156/glenoversetupplan2021_8.31.pdf
its been around for a long time. It isn’t perfect but its faster and cleaner than G40 (I’d actually mod G42 before G40). And it is canon in that it has Larry Harris bless and playtest by the original crew.
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