L24 bm4 axis-dom (axis) vs farmboy (allies+17) #2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 11

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 11

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Albania
              Italians take Albania from British
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
              Germans take Archangel from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
              Germans take Northwest Persia from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk
              Germans take Novosibirsk from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Timguska
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Rostov
              Germans take Rostov from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
        2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        2 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

here’s my posted combat movement. let me see if i can look that rule up

ok i found the rule:

so this means that we do the following:

1. you decide if you want to submerge or do your surprise strike. given your DD is present, i don’t have this choice with my sub, which i’m sure you already know that.
2. so if choose to do your surprise strike and get a hit, then i have to take out my sub at that point.
3. now we go into the general combat and yes, if i score a hit with my sub and then also a hit with my air, the highlighted text in that screenshot i’m sharing applies here: you would have to take out your sub with the hit i got from my sub, and the DD with the hit i got from the air.

given this, what do you prefer to do?

@farmboy said in L24 bm4 axis-dom (axis) vs farmboy (allies+17) #2:

@axis-dominion its tempting. I think if your air and your sub hit I have to lose both units. I can’t choose to take the destroyer first off your sub hit to avoid getting hit by the air. If that is the case, it submerges. If I can choose the destroyer to save the sub, than it will fight until the destroyer is destroyed.

given you’re offline, i’ll go with the instructions you gave here and submerge your sub.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 11

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Albania
              Italians take Albania from British
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
              Germans take Archangel from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
              Germans take Northwest Persia from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk
              Germans take Novosibirsk from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Timguska
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Rostov
              Germans take Rostov from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
        2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        2 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory 98 Sea Zone
        Battle in Syria
        Battle in 125 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
            British win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Americans, taking Syria from British with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Timguska
            Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Timguska, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Timguska, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Timguska, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Timguska, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Timguska
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Timguska
            Germans win, taking Timguska from Russians with 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Caucasus
            Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Caucasus: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Caucasus: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        6 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        10 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Southern Italy
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to France
        1 armour moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        9 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China

    Place Units - Germans
        1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,6
        Germans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 55 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 2.33
Germans regular : -4.33
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

you can swap your aa gun back in volgo

@farmboy said in L24 bm4 axis-dom (axis) vs farmboy (allies+17) #2:

@axis-dominion I probalby would have assumed you were going to try to take it and sacrificed the AA so I will leave it as is. Now based on teh dice, I shouldn’t have submerged. That was a good round of rolling for me. No Russia tonight.

yeah great round for you for sure lol

sounds good, have a good night

i guess that was payback for e.poland and greece lol

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 11

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Albania
              Italians take Albania from British
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
              Germans take Archangel from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
              Germans take Northwest Persia from British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk
              Germans take Novosibirsk from Russians
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Timguska
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Rostov
              Germans take Rostov from Russians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
        2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        2 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory 98 Sea Zone
        Battle in Syria
        Battle in 125 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
            British win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Americans, taking Syria from British with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Timguska
            Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Timguska, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Timguska, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Timguska, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Timguska, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Timguska
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Timguska
            Germans win, taking Timguska from Russians with 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Caucasus
            Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Caucasus: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Caucasus: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        6 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        10 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Southern Italy
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to France
        1 armour moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        9 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China

    Place Units - Germans
        1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Novgorod
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,6
        Germans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 55 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Caucasus: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Northwest Persia: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 2.33
Germans regular : -4.33
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

made a small edit