Note: I rolled for tech and got zero hits (1 token) Then I misclicked and did not declear war on japan. I exited and strted over again and saved 5 money.
Since tokens carry over I buy at least 1 token next round and that should fix my error
PtV League ArtOfWar1947 (Allies) vs. Nikola1975 (Axis +5)
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 16
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 16 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kwangtung 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Kwangtung 1 armour moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Shantung 1 fighter moved from Japan to Kiangsu 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Borneo Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangtung Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Kiangsu Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 mech_infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsu, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Kiangsu Japanese win, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Shantung Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shantung, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Japanese win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Place Units - Japanese 1 fighter placed in Japan 3 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 54 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.00 Japanese regular : 0.83 UK_Pacific regular : 0.67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 16
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 16 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone 6 carriers, 9 destroyers, 8 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 9 submarines and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 116 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 116 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Denmark 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 9 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Battle in Denmark Battle in Caroline Islands Battle in 116 Sea Zone Americans attack with 10 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 6 submarines and 1 transport 6 submarines owned by the Germans submerged Americans roll dice for 10 fighters in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 5.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers and 1 transport in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 destroyers owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 116 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 8 fighters in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 transport in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits 2 destroyers owned by the Germans lost in 116 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 8 fighters in 116 Sea Zone, round 4 : 3/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 116 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 1 transport owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 116 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Denmark from Germans, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43 Casualties for Americans: 4 fighters Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers and 1 transport Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 9 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 9 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 7/11 hits, 4.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 9 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 6 fighters moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 9 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus Place Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 27 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Hawaiian Islands: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 34 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Hawaiian Islands: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 34 Sea Zone: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 27 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Hawaiian Islands: 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 11 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 113 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 94 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 96 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hopei, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Kiangsi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 7 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 117 Sea Zone to Germany 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 3 fighters moved from Eastern India to Yunnan Combat - British Battle in Germany British captures 78PUs while taking Germans capital British converts factory_major into different units Battle in Yunnan British attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery British roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan British win, taking Germany from Germans with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery triggerGermansDestroyPUsBritish: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to Germans Non Combat Move - British 3 fighters moved from Yunnan to Eastern India 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Place Units - British 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in Iraq 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 40 PUs; end with 118 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 121 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 124 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 127 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Trans-Jordan: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Iraq: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 21 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2 UK_Pacific collect 9 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.83 Americans regular : -0.83 Japanese regular : 1.67 Germans regular : -2.00 British regular : -0.67 -
@artofwar1947 Well, I guess that is it. Extremely well played, congratulations! Especially if you intended to lure me to the East in order to march into Berlin in this way.
I would be interested to hear your opinion on what were the mistakes I made? I still have to learn a lot and any opinion you might have would be much appreciated.
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Thanks for an interesting and challenging game.
The Russians were always in trouble if Germany concentrated it land and air forces. This why the Allies kept up the pressure in the west. When the US and UK both have TTs in SZ 113, special care needs to be taken to defend Germany.
I am still not sure of a J-1 attack, because brings the US into the war on Round 1 and immediately gives the US bonuses.
But that said, the Japanese held sway in the Pacific until the second attack on the US/ANZAC Pacific fleet. The tide began to turn. This tactical victory turned into a strategic disadvantage because all of Japan’s BB and one of its few remaining CAs was left open to attack. The lost was compounded by the loss of two scrambled fighters. It might have been a good idea to have save at least one or even two the aircraft carriers and taken the hits on the attacking fighters and tacs. With the supporting CVs in the adjacent SZ and scrambled fighters from them, the Japanese may have been able to keep their BB-based fleet in tact.
The tide further turned with the unnecessary lost of the 4 TTs at the Marshall Islands.
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@artofwar1947 Yes, you are right, Marshall Island loss was a huge blow. Not sure though it was a decisive on its own, it had probably worsened situation enough for the Axis.
I was trying J1 attacks with a simple logic, let me try to explain and hear what you think:
- Attacking in round 1 does give US 20 extra IPC and takes away Japanese bonus, but killing US fleet at Hawaii, fighter on Philipines and destroyer+sub there, is almost there.
- US is in the war immediately, that is true, but Germans don’t have to worry about it, as US has to focus on Pacific. If they don’t, Japan becomes too strong. Meaning there is no disadvantage for European side of the map, US probably is not really there before round 4.
On the other hand, it does stretch Japan a bit and China becomes a problem, which has proven in this game as well.
Would you like a rematch, we can turn sides with the same +5 bid for you?
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You make a good argument for a J-1 strategy. I would check the games of the best players to see if they have adopted J-1. If so, this strengthens your case. If not, why not? Are they winning with a J-2 or J-3?
A rematch with same +5 bid sounds good. I try and set up the game today. My play will probably be slower as the playoff have begun.
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@artofwar1947 This is true, probably I am in a big minority with J1. Maybe though I am to something new and creative, who knows :) I will take a look at other plays.
Don’t rush with a rematch, set it up and we’ll start slowly. Who do you play with? I play Avner, PtV.
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I’ll try to get it set up tonight. Playing 666 in PO.
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@artofwar1947 He is very good I think. I played him some time ago, could not even get anything near to a success. But, you are better then me, so good luck!
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Yes, 666 is very good. I will need to be careful.
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