axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3

It’s been a long time since this question came up for me, but I’m 95% sure Colombia does not border SZ89, the one to the east of the Panama canal

Sorry I didn’t see the question until now

@gamerman01 said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

It’s been a long time since this question came up for me, but I’m 95% sure Colombia does not border SZ89, the one to the east of the Panama canal

Sorry I didn’t see the question until now

No problem and thanks for the response.

I shared the same assumption with AD so there wasn’t much at stake, but I was curious. I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that it does not touch, but on the map colombia has that protusion that seems to (almost) touch.

@axis-dominion it might very well be. At the time I was more worried about the Europe side of the map, and wanted to keep Japan spending on land to allow the US to spend more on Europe. But I didn’t think I had to worry about you going for a pacific victory

I think another error might have been splitting the Soviets as much as I did between Caucasus and E Europe. I was hoping to pressure Germany more, but I think holding Caucasus for longer was more important. I may not have actually had more options there, but I suspect I did.

I don’t expect this game to go on much longer. I think I can stop you from winning in the Pacific (in the next few turns at least), if I fully commit to it, but I can’t win the game in the long run if I can’t pressure Germany and Italy in Europe as well. Its very hard to figure out how to do both. But i am still going to try!

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 23

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 23

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 7 fighters and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 marines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 marines moved from 66 Sea Zone to Chile
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Argentina
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 50 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 51 Sea Zone to Samoa
        2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 64 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 29 Sea Zone to Line Islands
        4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
        4 bombers moved from Western United States to Brazil
        1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Argentina
        2 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Chile
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 89 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to Samoa
        4 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to Line Islands
        6 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Peru
        4 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 104 Sea Zone
        8 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 105 Sea Zone
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
        Battle in Line Islands
            Americans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Line Islands, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Line Islands, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Line Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Line Islands
            Americans win, taking Line Islands from Italians with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 66 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport
            Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 66 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 66 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 66 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Chile
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 marines
            Italians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 marines in Chile, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Chile, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Chile
            Americans win, taking Chile from Italians with 2 fighters and 2 marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Brazil
            Americans attack with 4 bombers and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans roll dice for 4 bombers and 2 infantry in Brazil, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Brazil, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Brazil
            Americans win with 4 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Argentina
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 marine
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Argentina, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 marine in Argentina, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 marine owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Argentina
            Americans win, taking Argentina from Italians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 marine
        Battle in Peru
            Americans attack with 6 fighters
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Peru, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Peru, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Peru
            Americans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Samoa
            Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samoa, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Samoa, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Samoa
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samoa, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Samoa, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Samoa
            Americans win, taking Samoa from Italians with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Spain
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Spain, round 2 : 10/26 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Spain
            Americans win, taking Spain from Germans with 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 2.17
Italians regular : 0.17
Germans regular : 0.00

Savegame

posting for the save. This might be a slow turn to sort out as well.

@farmboy I was thinking that Venezeula and Central America were adjacent (I wanted to move the bombers to that airbase). I’m guessing not and colombia is in the way but wanted to double check.

Yeah I think that stretch of land in colombia does separate the two of them but also doesn’t reach 89 which is a bit weird.

This is a newbie question that I should know the answer to but now I am second guessing myself. Baby brain is my excuse. I can walk into Colombia now and then fly over it this turn. But I can’t land in it until next turn.

I’ll wait for @gamerman01 to confirm but I think you are right. The rules only speak to not being able to land but I found an errata online where movement is also not allowed. And that rings a bell. So you will find my bombers grounded in Venezuela on your next turn.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 23

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 23

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 7 fighters and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 marines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 marines moved from 66 Sea Zone to Chile
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Argentina
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 50 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 51 Sea Zone to Samoa
        2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 64 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 29 Sea Zone to Line Islands
        4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
        4 bombers moved from Western United States to Brazil
        1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Argentina
        2 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Chile
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 89 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to Samoa
        4 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to Line Islands
        6 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Peru
        4 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 104 Sea Zone
        8 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Portugal to Spain
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 105 Sea Zone
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
        Battle in Line Islands
            Americans attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Line Islands, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Line Islands, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Line Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Line Islands
            Americans win, taking Line Islands from Italians with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 66 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport
            Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 66 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 66 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 66 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Chile
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 marines
            Italians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 marines in Chile, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Chile, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Chile
            Americans win, taking Chile from Italians with 2 fighters and 2 marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Brazil
            Americans attack with 4 bombers and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans roll dice for 4 bombers and 2 infantry in Brazil, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Brazil, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Brazil
            Americans win with 4 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Argentina
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 marine
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Argentina, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 marine in Argentina, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 marine owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Argentina
            Americans win, taking Argentina from Italians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 marine
        Battle in Peru
            Americans attack with 6 fighters
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Peru, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Peru, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Peru
            Americans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Samoa
            Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samoa, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Samoa, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Samoa
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samoa, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Samoa, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Samoa
            Americans win, taking Samoa from Italians with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Spain
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Spain, round 2 : 10/26 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Spain
            Americans win, taking Spain from Germans with 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Central America to Colombia
              Americans take Colombia from Neutral_True
        4 bombers moved from Brazil to Central America
        1 aaGun moved from Southeast Mexico to 64 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns and 4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
        1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        3 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        4 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 89 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from Line Islands to 29 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 64 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        4 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 9 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        4 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 64 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        3 carriers moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from Peru to 66 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Chile to 66 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Argentina to 66 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 65 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Samoa to 29 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to New South Wales
        7 fighters moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        1 fighter moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from 89 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        8 carriers moved from 50 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 64 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        7 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 50 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        4 destroyers moved from 50 Sea Zone to 29 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Western United States to Mexico
        13 infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
        7 infantry moved from Sweden to Norway
        1 submarine moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        7 fighters placed in Western United States
        2 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 2.17
Italians regular : 0.17
Germans regular : 0.00

Savegame

posted again for the save, but there is probably a fair bit of fine tuning that I will need to do.

@farmboy said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

@farmboy I was thinking that Venezeula and Central America were adjacent (I wanted to move the bombers to that airbase). I’m guessing not and colombia is in the way but wanted to double check.

Right, Venezuela does not border Central America - pretty sure, because they meet at a point, no shared border as drawn

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/20494/mongolia-and-neutrals-rules-summarized-here/89

Page 11 of the rulebook - “When a neutral territory is invaded, it’s no longer considered neutral and immediately becomes part of the alliance opposing the power that attacked it”. This is under “unfriendly neutrals” but applies to strict neutrals as well, per Krieghund

@farmboy said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

Yeah I think that stretch of land in colombia does separate the two of them but also doesn’t reach 89 which is a bit weird.

This is a newbie question that I should know the answer to but now I am second guessing myself. Baby brain is my excuse. I can walk into Colombia now and then fly over it this turn. But I can’t land in it until next turn.

Correct. When you walk into Colombia (attacking it), it is immediately no longer neutral, so you can fly over it in noncombat this turn, but of course can’t land in it because air can never land on territories not friendly at the beginning of the turn.

Oh, and although the word “immediately” is used, Krieghund specified that you can’t fly over the neutral except to attack it directly, so in other words walking into Colombia does not allow you to fly OVER Colombia during the COMBAT MOVE, but after the combat movement phase, the territory is no longer neutral so the attacking power can freely fly over it during the noncombat movement phase. All combat movement is considered to be simultaneous, so I guess it makes sense (that you can’t fly over (across without attacking) the neutral during combat move even though you’re attacking it with other units)

@gamerman01 thanks! to be clear though, I didn’t attack Colombia. It became a friendly neutral because AD had attacked the neutrals elsewhere. So it had become a friendly neutral and I was walking in on my NCM. So the question is whether you can fly over a friendly neutral on the same NCM that you walk into it.

Oops, that’s so right!

Page 10 of the Europe rulebook under “friendly neutrals” says the territory is moved out of its neutral status at the END of the Noncombat Move phase.

So, similar to when you’re attacking a neutral, you can’t fly over it in the same phase, same with moving into a friendly neutral, you can’t fly over it in the same phase.

Given my misunderstanding of the map, I would like to change my casualty choice in Brazil from an inf to a bomber so that I do take it. I’ll edit that in when I get to my turn, but just let me know if you want me to stick with the original.