League General Discussion Thread

@oysteilo said in League General Discussion Thread:

The first example is interessting. lets say all defending subs are missing, after all THEY get a first shot

For this example, I did fail to remember the defending subs would fire first. I edited my post to make it correct and much less confusing, thanks to you!

Then the attacking subs fire and get 5 hits. Are you saying i can not assign those 5 hits to the destroyers? I have to fire the 10 bombers first and bomber hits must be assigned to defending destroyers?

No, I’m saying those 5 sub hits would be assigned to subs and/or destroyers by the defender, but that the defender SHOULD NOT BE asked yet. Defender should get to see bomber rolls too before choosing any losses. Defender had destroyer so attacking subs do not have surprise strike. Only when there is surprise strike should action be stopped and casualties chosen.

I’ll just explain 97 again and hopefully it makes better sense when I use different words.

We first have to assume the UK has a bid sub. The sub is necessary to illustrate.

If UK attacks Z97 with everything (including a sub from 98), the engine will roll the UK sub first (I think it does this regardless of whether there is a defending destroyer)
In this case, with no defending destroyer that is correct. If the sub hits, the defender must choose a casualty immediately because of surprise strike.

Then assuming an Axis scramble to 97, the engine will roll the defending planes alone, and prompt for a casualty choice before continuing.
This is incorrect.
Following the engine, the UK player has to choose a non-sub casualty not knowing if the 2 cruisers and battleship will score a hit that could be taken by the attacking sub.
Following the official rules, the 2 cruisers, battleship, and scrambled fighters would all be rolled, with the fighter rolls being specially noted because the sub can’t be taken as a casualty to those fighter hits.

In Triple A, the player taking hits is sometimes required to choose casualties before he should.
As noted (even years ago) in the TripleA notes, this error has been acknowledged and identified and labeled NA for “no available fix yet”

Since I keep running into experienced league players who are unaware, I wanted to get this out there again and try to help everyone know how to play correctly

Thanks for your feedback Oysteilo!!!

Yeah, I tried… I tend to use more words than necessary.

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