Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)

There’s been some debate on this thread: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=38462.45
as to how the rule “When not yet at war with the United States, in addition to the normal restrictions, Japan
may not end the movement of its sea units within 2 sea zones of the United States’ mainland territories (Western United States and Alaska)” should be interpreted - specifically, where to start counting those 2 sea zones.

In effect, the question boils down to whether Japan, while not at war with the US, may end its move in any of the following sea zones: 4, 7, 13, 14, 15, 26, 27, 28.

Can we have an official ruling on this one please?

Sure,
Every single one of those sea zones you listed are legal for Japan.  They are three zones from WUS and Alaska, the way the rule book intends it to be counted.

Z10 counts as 1 zone, for example, and Zone 9 is the second zone so Zone 9 is off limits.
Z8 and Z3 are not allowed for Japan movement, but 4 and 7 are

I know this for sure because Krieghund answered it for us in the past - we had the same question

Is there any impediment to landing fighters on a newly mobilised carrier when that carrier is being mobilised into a hostile sea zone?

@simon33:

Is there any impediment to landing fighters on a newly mobilised carrier when that carrier is being mobilised into a hostile sea zone?

From the rule book:
“You can place fighters and tactical bombers into territories containing an industrial complex controlled by your power from the start of your turn, or on an aircraft carrier owned by your power in a sea zone (even a hostile one) adjacent to a territory with such an industrial complex.”

@Gamerman01:

Sure,
Every single one of those sea zones you listed are legal for Japan.  They are three zones from WUS and Alaska, the way the rule book intends it to be counted.

Z10 counts as 1 zone, for example, and Zone 9 is the second zone so Zone 9 is off limits.
Z8 and Z3 are not allowed for Japan movement, but 4 and 7 are

I know this for sure because Krieghund answered it for us in the past - we had the same question

Thank you! I was leaning toward thinking those sea zones wouldn’t be accessible but opinions were divided, so thanks for clearing this up.

@Ozymandiac:

@simon33:

Is there any impediment to landing fighters on a newly mobilised carrier when that carrier is being mobilised into a hostile sea zone?

From the rule book:
“You can place fighters and tactical bombers into territories containing an industrial complex controlled by your power from the start of your turn, or on an aircraft carrier owned by your power in a sea zone (even a hostile one) adjacent to a territory with such an industrial complex.”

I was thinking of landing an existing fighter on a newly mobilised carrier.

@simon33:

I was thinking of landing an existing fighter on a newly mobilised carrier.

Sorry, I misread.

Also from the rulebook:

“A fighter or tactical bomber can land in a sea zone (even a hostile one) that is adjacent to an industrial complex you own if you will be mobilizing an aircraft carrier that you previously purchased in that zone during the Mobilize New Units phase.”

So there is no impedement, you can land fighters on a carrier you will be mobilizing, even in a hostile sea zone.

Thanks. That’s great!

In a battle, air units and submarines participate. The defending naval units are eliminated and the defender has lost all its sea units. That is, the naval part of the battle is one and the air battle continues.

If the attacker decides to retreat, can the sub follow along? I would normally not think of this because the software would guide us through it, but I’m in a situation where I need to edit a casualty choice and restore the board.

Thanks for your input!

@Gamerman01:

When air units retreat, they stay in the contested zone temporarily.
Land and naval units retreat together as prescribed by the rule book (naval units cannot retreat to a zone that was hostile at the beginning of the turn, but can retreat to any zone that any of the attacking naval units passed through)

The answer is yes, the subs can retreat to a zone that naval units came from or passed through, but only subs that were never submerged.  The attacker could submerge the subs on any given round(s) that combat is still going on in order to keep the subs in the combat zone while the air retreats.  Each sub submerges individually, so a combination of retreating and staying could possibly be accomplished.

Thank you! I’ll watch for how AAA does this, it probably asks if attacking subs want to submerge or retreat first, then ask for all other units.

I think it will just ask if you want to retreat
You have to submerge the subs at the beginning of a round of combat - you don’t submerge them when retreating

We encountered the following situation. Germany attacks an English transport with a sub + a couple of fighers. The English send a couple of scrambled fighters to aid the transport.

What if: the English fighters kill the German fighters? Are the German subs forced to retreat? Is the English transport auto-destroyed?

Transport is destroyed.

Great, thanks!

What if: the Germans retreat after 1 round of combat? Will the transport in that case only be destroyed if the subs rolled a hit during that one round?

If at the end of a round of combat there are only transports (or AAA) left, you can’t retreat.  So if the attacking fighters destroyed the last defending fighter in a given round, the attacker would have no options because combat is over.  The sub would have to stay there and sink the transport (well, unless you choose to submerge the sub before it scores a hit, because maybe you want the transport to survive - this is a possibility)

So if after 1 round of combat there is a remaining UK fighter, then the Germans can retreat, and the transport would be sunk if the sub scored a hit.  If after 1 round of combat all UK fighters are destroyed, then there can be no retreat

Thanks! But I will rephrase my question because I still have a situation in my mind that’s not resolved. Maybe I’m just thick-headed. Apologies in that case…

Germany attacks with 1 sub + 2 fighters.
UK defends with 1 transport + 2 fighters (scrambled).

Germany rolls 1 with the sub; and 6,6 with the fighters.
UK rolls 1,6 with the fighters.

Germany wants to preserve its fighter and retreat. What happens to the transport; has the sub killed it in the 1st combat round? What happens to the sub if Germany retreats its remaining fighter and sub?

@Ozymandiac:

Thanks! But I will rephrase my question because I still have a situation in my mind that’s not resolved. Maybe I’m just thick-headed. Apologies in that case…

Germany attacks with 1 sub + 2 fighters.
UK defends with 1 transport + 2 fighters (scrambled).

Germany rolls 1 with the sub; and 6,6 with the fighters.
UK rolls 1,6 with the fighters.

Germany wants to preserve its fighter and retreat. What happens to the transport; has the sub killed it in the 1st combat round? What happens to the sub if Germany retreats its remaining fighter and sub?

This is the order how to resolve this situation:
1. The German sub has it’s surprise strike. As it hits, the hit must be assigned to the Transport. The Transport sinks and is removed from the game.
2. The German fighters shoot and miss
3. The UK fighters shoot and score a hit
4. Germany removes a fighter, as the German sub cannot be hit by the UK fighters.
5. Germany retreats the remaining fighter (during NCM) and the submarine (to a single adjacent friendly space from which it came from).

HTH :-)

Right - thanks P@nther

Thanks a bunch everybody! This clarifies a lot.