A normal cross-hit on a light sabre wouldn’t work. Because the other guys light sabre would just cut through it!
Hence, the important of the light cross-hit, which may have two small/obscure mandibles that prevent the hand from touching them!
A normal cross-hit on a light sabre wouldn’t work. Because the other guys light sabre would just cut through it!
Hence, the important of the light cross-hit, which may have two small/obscure mandibles that prevent the hand from touching them!
Prevents the user’s hands from touching the blade, yes. But my point is that it would not offer any more protection because the other lightsaber would easily cut through the cross bar emitters and then into the hands. Kinda useless in a protection sense. Now, if the emitters were flush with the sides of the lightsaber hilt itself, then they might be worth something. Clearly they are not in the example from the trailer.
The explanation may perhaps have more to do with film grammar than with logical weapon design. Filmmakers in general, and sci-fi filmmakers in particular, sometimes have to make design compromises over things that might confuse the average moviegoer (as opposed to any specialists who might be in the audience). Take for example the spaceship Discovery in 2001: A Space Odyssey. The ship is powered by a nuclear reactor, and Arthur C. Clarke has pointed out that although it ought to have large radiator fins to dissipate waste heat, Kubrick’s designers left them off because the average moviegoer would have mistaken them for wings and would have been baffled about the presence of wings on a ship that is clearly meant to operate purely in space. Baffling a film audience is generally a bad idea (except in spy and mystery films, where it’s an expected element of the genre) because when the audience gets hung up on a distracting detail like that, their attention is drawn away from where it ought to be. So perhaps the crossguard emitters are there for a similar reason. They tell the people in audience where the crossguard blades are coming from, so that the average moviegoers will immediately accept the presence of the crossguard blades without losing a beat of the story; it’s only the more critical minority of the audience members who will point out, quite correctly, that the emitters are too vulnerable to damage from an opponent’s lightsaber blade. If the designers had left off the emitters, and had the crossguard blades emerged directly from the handle of the saber, you’d get the opposite reaction: the critical members of the audience would have approved of this logical design, whereas the typical moviegoer might have wondered: “Where are those two extra blades coming from? Did his lightsaber just spring a couple of leaks or something?”
The Sith and other dark Jedis used sometimes Swords wich could take on Lightsabers in battle, but as far as I know there was no similar design like the one we have seen in the Teaser.
The question, what is more ratteling on the Cage is:
Are they going to tell us another diffrent Story oposed to the original?
There are diffrent design out there in SW universe but this design will need an explanation of where it came from…
@aequitas:
The question, what is more ratteling on the Cage is:
Are they going to tell us another diffrent Story oposed to the original?
What do you mean “different story as opposed to the original”? As in, are they not going to stay faithful to the style and mode of the original… or are they re-telling the story. It isn’t a reboot, but a continuation.
@aequitas:
There are diffrent design out there in SW universe but this design will need an explanation of where it came from…
I don’t think it needs one. They didn’t explain Darth Maul’s lightsaber as being similar to Exar Kun’s.
This saber is strictly because that hack JJ thought it looked cool. They put zero thought into it before deciding to do it. They then left it to the fight coordinator to make it work no doubt.
I point out that the Jedi have typically been shown to use samuraii styled swordsmanship. The Tsuba similar to a cross guard is not frequently used in that style of fighting. I’d also point out that the cross guard typically keeps the opposing blade from sliding all the way down your blade to your hands.
The blade shown in the underwhelming preview has points near the blade where the light saber cross guard is projected. It has been shown that lightsabers hilts may be sliced by lightsabers. A lightsaber sliding down the claymore lightsaber blade would cut the protrusion projecting the cross guard defeating the main purpose of the guard. This flaw in the weapon design combined with the other difficulties inherent in wielding a weapon as dangerous to the user as these cross guards would be suggests it is not a practical choice.
We have also seen that lightsabers tend to be “sticky” in that the blades don’t slide along one another hence the lack of cross guards in the previous films: they aren’t needed on these weapons.
This lightsaber epitomizes the style over substance I’ve come to expect from JJ.
We have also seen that lightsabers tend to be “sticky” in that the blades don’t slide along one another hence the lack of cross guards in the previous films: they aren’t needed on these weapons.
While I understand people describing lightsaber dynamics as “sticky”, I have never personally viewed them as such. There certainly has never appeared to me to be any stickiness to the fight sequences. If anything the saber contact usually lasts a fraction of a second or they simply are being pushed together by the users.
There is definitely some saber on saber movement here at 1:52 and 2:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRd9PGmAQUE#t=110
This lightsaber epitomizes the style over substance I’ve come to expect from JJ.
The rather ridiculous shot in the teaser that follows the Millennium Falcon through an upside down loop sealed the JJ-ness for me. Well that and the crazy little soccer ball droid. The first was very obviously a non-traditional Star Wars shot. Jarringly so.
@aequitas:
The question, what is more ratteling on the Cage is:
Are they going to tell us another diffrent Story oposed to the original?What do you mean “different story as opposed to the original”? As in, are they not going to stay faithful to the style and mode of the original… or are they re-telling the story. It isn’t a reboot, but a continuation.
@aequitas:
There are diffrent design out there in SW universe but this design will need an explanation of where it came from…
I don’t think it needs one. They didn’t explain Darth Maul’s lightsaber as being similar to Exar Kun’s.
With Starkiller and other new guys, SW has now lot of space to tell the original Story diffrent( from E6 onward).
They changed allready the original story about Boba Fett for example (SW Clone Wars Anime).
In the Teaser is the style of the X-Wing changed and leaves room for rumors.
It is not clear what direction JJ went but it Looks like that Jacen is for now no part of it.
Maybe one of the cloned sidiuos’. We will see…
I don’t think it needs one. They didn’t explain Darth Maul’s lightsaber as being similar to Exar Kun’s.
Darth Zannah used a similar one for example. :-)
@aequitas:
With Starkiller and other new guys, SW has now lot of space to tell the original Story diffrent( from E6 onward).
They changed allready the original story about Boba Fett for example (SW Clone Wars Anime).
In the Teaser is the style of the X-Wing changed and leaves room for rumors.It is not clear what direction JJ went but it Looks like that Jacen is for now no part of it.
Maybe one of the cloned sidiuos’. We will see…
As I understand it, they have scrapped all expanded universe stuff (at least post-Ep VI), so if they had the Solo kids or anyone else in the upcoming movies it is their prerogative to change, remove, alter, delete, modify anything and everything as JJ and crew sees fit. Kind of a shame for all those years of work, but it could yield good things. I am not someone who hangs on every new Star Wars development though.
We have also seen that lightsabers tend to be “sticky” in that the blades don’t slide along one another hence the lack of cross guards in the previous films: they aren’t needed on these weapons.
While I understand people describing lightsaber dynamics as “sticky”, I have never personally viewed them as such. There certainly has never appeared to me to be any stickiness to the fight sequences. If anything the saber contact usually lasts a fraction of a second or they simply are being pushed together by the users.
There is definitely some saber on saber movement here at 1:52 and 2:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRd9PGmAQUE#t=110
There is some movement but neither blade is sliding up to the cross guard. Either way I don’t like that longsword lightsaber.
This lightsaber epitomizes the style over substance I’ve come to expect from JJ.
The rather ridiculous shot in the teaser that follows the Millennium Falcon through an upside down loop sealed the JJ-ness for me. Well that and the crazy little soccer ball droid. The first was very obviously a non-traditional Star Wars shot. Jarringly so.
I thought that was horrible. It would have been okay if it were a cockpit view but otherwise what are they trying to show? Especially with more or less a tight zoom. That Falcon shot was awful. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
The soccer ball droid is official known as:
FIFA-D2
@CWO:
Jarringly so.
One might even say Jar-Jarringly so. :-D
I was not about to go there, but I figured someone might.
The soccer ball droid is official known as:
FIFA-D2
:lol: :lol:
A couple of amusing articles on the infamous crossguard lightsaber. I especially like the Swiss Army knife version in the second article.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/70914/the-best-internet-reactions-to-star-wars-newest-lightsaber
Hey guys there’s a new feature on the made-up space laser sword that might not be realistically functional
The soccer ball droid is official known as:
FIFA-D2
It now turns out that the droid is called BB:8, as mentioned here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/star-wars-the-force-awakens-characters-named-in-trading-cards-1.2870892
I go with FIFA-D2 as Gargantua called him early. :-D
@aequitas:
I go with FIFA-D2 as Gargantua called him early. :-D
Fair enough. Besides, “FIFA-D2” has the advantage that it avoids potential confusion (at least in the minds of naval history people) with that other “BB:8”, the pre-dreadnought USS Alabama:
Darth Zannah used a similar one for example. :-)
Zannah, what a Sith Babe.
I would love to see a Darth Bane movie.
