Looking for beta testers for the next version of TripleA


  • @Veqryn:

    Instructions:

    2. Download the map “World War II Global”, the latest version (should be version 2.9 as of writing this).

    3. Unzip the map into a folder with the same name as the zip.  There should be no double folder. 
    The directory to the games folder should look like this:```
    triplea\maps\World War II Global\games

    Example: C:\Users\veqryn\triplea\maps\World War II Global\games
    
    4\. Delete the zip. (you don't need the zip because you just unzipped its contents to a folder of the same name)
    …
    

    As I had already installed Map 2.9 as *.zip I just replaced the attatched “ww2global40_alpha3future.xml.txt” with the one that was already there and removed the “.txt” inside the zip-structure (using 7zip).
    This seems to run fine - so there is no need to install the map a second time.
    Or is there something else behind that, that requires the map to be installed twice?

  • Customizer

    @P@nther:

    As I had already installed Map 2.9 as *.zip I just replaced the attatched “ww2global40_alpha3future.xml.txt” with the one that was already there and removed the “.txt” inside the zip-structure (using 7zip).
    This seems to run fine - so there is no need to install the map a second time.
    Or is there something else behind that, that requires the map to be installed twice?

    No, that works too.

    The point is just to get the file to end with .xml, and to get it into a “games” folder.

  • Customizer

    Changes for Global 1940 version 3.0

    • Added all technology to Global 1940.
    • Allowed paratroopers to be moved in a second combat movement phase.
    • Made bonus for Mech Infantry work correctly.
    • Made Rockets go 4 spaces and not fly over neutrals.
    • Allowed UK_Pacific to share the cost of researching technology.
    • Made British share all technology with UK_Pacific.
    • Allowed Convoy Blockades to roll dice (you can turn this off in game options).
    • Allowed Low Luck for Strategy Bombing and Rockets to be set again.
    • Stopped British air units from dying if UK_Pacific was building a factory under them.
    • Forced Tactical Bombers to only be able to target airfields and harbours.
    • Allowed Submarines to enter any sea zone during non-combat, but end movement if there is an enemy Destroyer present.

    (and a TON more fixes that were fixed in the TripleA engine [not the map files])

    For a list of TripleA engine changes from TripleA 1.5.2.1 to TripleA 1.6, click here:
    http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/TripleA-1-6-Unstable-has-been-released-tp7579863.html

  • '21 '19 '18 '17 '16

    What are tech tokens and how is TripleA handling the research?  I ran through a round or two and then noticed that ANZAC was rolling four dice on turn 2 after buying 2 dice on turn 1 and two more dice on turn 2.  Perhaps I’m getting my rule sets confused, but I was expecting that each expenditure of five production units bought single die roll.  So for ANZAC, spend ten on turn 1 and roll two dice and then spend ten on turn 2 and roll 2 dice again.  Are tech tokens a die roll per turn until a success happens?

    On the Stats tab, there’s table of technologies and countries.  The countries are single letter acronyms but some are confusing.  As and Us are confusing me but the I and J were obvious.  Could technology get its own tab so that the table is larger and easier to read?

    Thanks for all the great work,

  • Customizer

    I thought Global 1940 uses AA50 style tech dice (research tokens) that stay around until you are successful.

    Man, if Global doesn’t I’m going to have to make my own mod to balance tech.  One thing Larry Harris has never done well is tech.  It has always been unbalanced and stupid.

    Also, you can expand the stats tab to be bigger.


  • The research token system, although popular and intuitive, was not ported to Global 40 (to my knowledge).


  • This is what the rulebooks say:

    @AA50:

    Step 2: Roll Research Dice
    For each researcher you have, roll one die.
    Success: If you roll at least one “6”, you have successfully made a technological
    breakthrough. Discard all your researcher tokens and continue to step 3.
    Failure: If you do not roll a “6”, your research has failed. Keep all your
    researcher tokens and continue to the Purchase Units phase of the turn.

    and
    @Europe40:

    Step 2: Roll Research Dice
    Roll each of your purchased research dice.
    Success: If you roll at least one “6”, you have successfully made a technological
    breakthrough. Continue to step 3.
    Failure: If you don’t roll a “6”, your research has failed.

    So I’m afraid the technology system changed.

  • Customizer

    k, that is a relatively easy fix.

    how is triplea 1.6 and global 3.0 going other than that?


  • I just started a game here:

    http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=27606.0

    G1 went fine so far.

    Concerning the tech-change: If it is not too much work,  maybe there can be a game option to either use the AA50 system or the “new” one.
    Personally I like the AA50 tech-system more, but if one wants to stick to the rules this should be possible.

  • Customizer

    that is the plan actually,
    i was going to make one called “Tech Tokens are removed at end of turn”
    or something like that (which will default to true for global)

  • Customizer

    @Veqryn:

    TripleA 1.6 is out:
    http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/TripleA-1-6-Unstable-has-been-released-tp7579863.html
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/triplea/files/TripleA_Unstable/1_6/

    And attached is the XML you must use.  It is called “World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future” (because it only works with TripleA 1.6 and later)

    Instructions:
    1. Download TripleA 1.6, and install it or whatever.
    2. Download the map “World War II Global”, the latest version (should be version 2.9 as of writing this).
    3. Unzip the map into a folder with the same name as the zip.  There should be no double folder.  
    The directory to the games folder should look like this:```
    triplea\maps\World War II Global\games

    Example: C:\Users\veqryn\triplea\maps\World War II Global\games
    4\. Delete the zip. (you don't need the zip because you just unzipped its contents to a folder of the same name)
    5\. Download the xml file I have attached here.
    6\. Copy or move the XML to the "games" folder inside the Global folder.
    Example: C:\Users\veqryn\triplea\maps\World War II Global\games\ww2global40_alpha3future.xml
    7\. Run TripleA 1.6, and select "World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future" (should be version 3.0 as of writing this), and PLAY IT!
    
    **NOTICE:**
    Because of installing this XML, you will forever receive a "message" when you open TripleA 1.5.2.1
    _IGNORE THE MESSAGE!_
    Basically, this xml contains information that TripleA 1.5.2.1 does not understand (like the technologies for global alpha), and consequently TripleA 1.5.2.1 will complain that it doesn't understand this xml.
    **Nothing bad is happening.  TripleA 1.5.2.1 is just telling you it can't read the xml.  Just close the message box, and ignore it.  You can keep using TripleA 1.5.2.1 for all your other games, including Global 1940 version 2.9!**
    
    This is the message you will receive:
    

    Trying to play a map made for a newer version of TripleA. Map named ‘World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future’ requires at least TripleA version 1.6
    Warning: validation was turned on but an org.xml.sax.ErrorHandler was not set, which is probably not what is desired.  Parser will use a default ErrorHandler to print the first 10 errors.  Please call the ‘setErrorHandler’ method to fix this.
    Error: URI=jar:file:/C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/TripleA/triplea_1_5_2_1/bin/triplea.jar!/games/strategy/engine/xml/ Line=5392: Attribute “type” with value “technology” must have a value from the list "unitType territory resource player relationship territoryEffect ".

    
    Again, just ignore it and close it.  I don't want to hear anyone complaining about this message!
    

    I made the install process a lot easier.

    Now there is only 2 steps:

    • get TripleA 1.6

    • download global 1940, and have it replace your existing zip

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/tripleamaps/files/maps/preview/World War II Global.zip

  • '21 '19 '18 '17 '16

    I’m still cycling through regular turns and not bothering to move any units, just buying technology tokens.  I like the token concept by the way, it will be good to have tokens instead of die rolls as an option.

    Anyway, on US turn 4 during combat moves, a message popped up asking about kamikaze strikes in the sea zone around the Phillippines, sea zone 35.  Since Japan isn’t holding the Philippines it looked a little strange for it to pop up.  On the other hand, a literal reading of the rule on the www.harrisgamedesign.com forum doesn’t have a clause that requires Japan to actually hold the island in the territory matching that sea zone.  I wrote a post there to ask Krieghund if holding the territory in the sea zone was required, it seems reasonable to expect that the land needs to be held.

    Saved just after american combat move got offered kamikaze strikes.tsvg

  • '21 '19 '18 '17 '16

    I went a little further and got this

    Exception in thread “Triplea start thread” java.lang.NullPointerException
    at games.strategy.triplea.attatchments.TriggerAttachment.triggerSupportChange(TriggerAttachment.java:2111)
    at games.strategy.triplea.delegate.TechActivationDelegate.start(TechActivationDelegate.java:108)
    at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.startStep(ServerGame.java:567)
    at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.runStep(ServerGame.java:467)
    at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.startGame(ServerGame.java:291)
    at games.strategy.engine.framework.startup.launcher.LocalLauncher.launchInNewThread(LocalLauncher.java:99)
    at games.strategy.engine.framework.startup.launcher.AbstractLauncher$1.run(AbstractLauncher.java:46)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

    I was buying tech tokens for the UK when this happened.  Autosave file attached.

    autosave.tsvg

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    @Degrasse:

    I went a little further and got this

    Exception in thread “Triplea start thread” java.lang.NullPointerException
    at games.strategy.triplea.attatchments.TriggerAttachment.triggerSupportChange(TriggerAttachment.java:2111)
    at games.strategy.triplea.delegate.TechActivationDelegate.start(TechActivationDelegate.java:108)

    I was buying tech tokens for the UK when this happened.  Autosave file attached.

    thanks,
    this only happens when the British successfully research “Improved Mech Inf” tech
    I’ll look into why this is happening

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    @Veqryn:

    @Degrasse:

    I went a little further and got this

    Exception in thread “Triplea start thread” java.lang.NullPointerException
    at games.strategy.triplea.attatchments.TriggerAttachment.triggerSupportChange(TriggerAttachment.java:2111)
    at games.strategy.triplea.delegate.TechActivationDelegate.start(TechActivationDelegate.java:108)

    I was buying tech tokens for the UK when this happened.  Autosave file attached.

    thanks,
    this only happens when the British successfully research “Improved Mech Inf” tech
    I’ll look into why this is happening

    Congratz Degrasse,

    you managed to find a bug in “java”

    that is right, the bug is actually in java, not my program……

    i’ll try to work on several different workaround, but holy hell, this is both rather cool, and extremely frustrating

  • '21 '19 '18 '17 '16

    It’s a bughunt.    8-)

  • TripleA '12

    I’m looking forward to the Global 40 playtesting asap, but I ahevn’t downloaded the 1.6 yet as I’ve been too busy this weekend visiting relatives. I will get on the case very soon.

    However, I do currently have two instances of TripleA installed: 1_3_2_2 (which I use for 50th Anniversary) and 1_5_2_1 (which I use for Pacific 40). Obviously, I would rather only have the one instance of TripleA so as not to clutter up my C drive too much. What I want to know is, will the new TripleA 1.6 include the previous two versions mentioned above?

    Thank you very much in advance.

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    @Lozmoid:

    I’m looking forward to the Global 40 playtesting asap, but I ahevn’t downloaded the 1.6 yet as I’ve been too busy this weekend visiting relatives. I will get on the case very soon.

    However, I do currently have two instances of TripleA installed: 1_3_2_2 (which I use for 50th Anniversary) and 1_5_2_1 (which I use for Pacific 40). Obviously, I would rather only have the one instance of TripleA so as not to clutter up my C drive too much. What I want to know is, will the new TripleA 1.6 include the previous two versions mentioned above?

    Thank you very much in advance.

    You have me a little bit confused.

    AA50th works on ALL versions of TripleA.

    Any map (starting a new game on the map) that works on TripleA 1.3.2.2 will work on any later version of TripleA
    Same with any map that works on TripleA 1.5.2.1 will work with any later version of triplea.

    All the changes I make when I release new versions of triplea are “additive”.  Maps made for older version of TripleA will 99.99999% of the time work with a newer version of TripleA.

    So you can go ahead and delete TripleA 1.3.2.2 now, unless you still have gamesaves on it to finish.

    Everyone who is risk-averse, should be using the latest STABLE version of TripleA for ALL their new games, no matter what the map is.  (The latest stable as of writing this is 1.5.2.1)

    Everyone who can accept that there may be unknown bugs, or anyone who wants to help me and help triplea, or anyone who wants to play with the latest version of Global 1940 [with techs, bug fixes, etc], should be using the latest UNSTABLE version of TripleA for ALL their new games against other risk-accepting people, and should also keep using the Stable version of TripleA for games against any risk-averse people.  (The latest unstable as of writing this is 1.6)

    hope that makes sense

  • TripleA '12

    That makes perfect sense, Veqryn, thank you. Sorry for the confusion. I will keep the stable 1.5.2.1 and delete/uninstall the 1.3.2.2. I will also get the new unstable 1.6 asap so I can crack on with the bughunt (and the enjoyment too, of course)!

  • TripleA '12

    Okay, I may have found a bug here. I am playing:

    World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3
    Engine Version: 1.6 Game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Game Version:2.9

    I am Germany against the AI. I had previously purchased a Minor IC upgrade without realising that I needed to have a Minor IC in an original territory to start with. Therefore, the upgrade sat in my ‘mobilization zone’ (for x number of turns) and could only be placed/used once I built a Minor IC in one of my original territories. No problem with that, but perhaps the game shouldn’t let you purchse an upgrade if it knows that you don’t have any eligible ICs.

    Also, I noticed that all of my Minor ICs that I captured from the enemy during the game showed a potential to build/place 4 new units during the MNU phase (instead of the usual 3). Now, I understand that this is because the game knows that I have previously purchased a Minor IC upgrade and therefore is treating my potential build as being: 3 new combat units + 1 upgrade = 4. However! The game should realise that it is not legal to upgrade a captured Minor IC, and therefore the potential of 4 builds should in fact be 3.

    I have added a save game here. Look at France. It is doing what I described above and yet Normandy Bordeaux is not. They both have captured Minor ICs on them but France shows a potential 4 builds and Normandy Bordeaux shows a potential 3 (which I believe is correct).

    Global 1940 BUG.tsvg

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