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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 20
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Russians Russians repair damage of 10x factory_major; Remaining resources: 31 PUs; Russians buy 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Trigger Russians Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel 1 fighter moved from Russia to Archangel 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Western Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry Germans defend with 2 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Western Ukraine Russians attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 fighter moved from Archangel to Russia 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Samara 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda 5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 2 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur 1 armour moved from Russia to Samara 6 armour moved from Russia to Samara Place Units - Russians 3 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Russia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Samara: 1 armour EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Samara: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Tambov: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Rostov: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians 5 Persia Lend Lease Lane War With Japan: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -0.67 Russians : 2.00 -
I’m kicking myself for not adding another blocker to keep the US from landing in Guam. I misjudged the odds if you moved your fleet inwards without blockers. I think I was checking the fleet without scramble support and forgot to consider that too.
I moved the German sub to the Philippines thinking that is the most likely spot the Japan fleet will end up. With blockers on your stack in 54 I think I can have the odds in both Japan and Philippines although it would certainly be close. And at least the Philippines blocks you from setting up in the islands and probably permanently denying them to me. Although I imagine it means you get a foothold in Korea and would be hard to dislodge from 6 after. I also considered Paulau because it would put me in between your two fleets and threaten ANZAC and deny you the bonus, but it allows you to go north safely without blockers or south to secure an island with blockers. I also considered Hong Kong since it would mean at least one less blocker but it also seemed that you could certainly set up the fleet securely in the money islands if I did that. I didn’t think it would be a good move for me to simply build and wait in 6.
I’m also seriously considering attacking your fleet. My odds are about 45%. That obviously could effectively end the game if I lose badly (and maybe also if I win dramatically), but I’m not sure my odds are better than 45% in the game if I don’t. And even a narrow loss where you lose your carriers and comparable TUV might be okay for me?
Anyway I feel a bit out of my depth with this situation. After I make my move, one way or the other, I’d be curious how you would have handled this. Might get to it in the next hour. Otherwise it will likely be tomorrow.
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Guam wasn’t that obvious of a move for me, I was considering doing Philippines with some blockers even with Guam as an option. And you can’t block everything every time, even though blocking has generally been successful for you this game.
You can stack both Philippines sz and Japan sz?
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I can’t hold both sea zones but I can just barely get better than 50% odds on 35 and in Japan itself. One thing I have to now be careful about is that even with blockers for Japan, you could use the US air on Japan first and then land the ANZAC units. So I have to leave enough back in Japan to make that move unlikely.
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Yeah that was part of the Guam move. I calced it quickly and you should be able to do both, just can’t use the air for attacks this turn.
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quick question. When you leave land units on transports for a turn I know it means that on the subsequent turn, you are not committed to landing both in an amphibious attack. Does it also mean you can split them up in the landings so that one transport can allow landings on two locations?
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No, 1 tp can only unload in 1 territory.
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@Adam514 Thanks. I was pretty sure that was the case, but wanted to be sure.
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Sorry, another question. If I attack your fleet at 21 and we get to a point where you are down to BB and air and my surviving subs roll more than 2 hits do you lose the transports then or does it only happen after I have won the battle. I’m wondering if there is a situation where I can retreat surviving units but because of the subs still hit your transports.
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I’ll lose tp, but if you only have subs remaining vs tp and air, you aren’t supposed to be allowed to retreat since the air can’t hit you and there are only NC ships left.
I don’t see that happening though, if you change your OOL to keep subs I’ll change mine to keep DDs.
Off to sleep, take your time.
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@Adam514 Yeah, sorry, I need to think about this move a bit more today.
Just to clarify, if I end up in a situation where you have most of your air , 2 battleships, 3 cruisers and a destroyer and my surviving subs get 7 hits, that would then take out the surface ships and the transports. At the end of that round, I might still have BB and a few air left and you would still have air. In that case, I would still be able to retreat?I know it is not particularly likely. I have just been playtesting that combat a few times and felt like a situation like this arose.
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If both sides have combat units that can hit each other, you can retreat.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 20
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 3 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Urals Japanese take Urals from Russians 1 infantry moved from India to West India Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Java to 21 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 21 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone Japanese take 22 Sea Zone from Americans 1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone Combat - JapaneseCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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This might be a ridiculous choice on my part, but I decided to go for it. I saved it here but I think its a fairly safe bet that you would max the scramble, so I will do the other combats and head to my first roll here.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 20
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 3 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Urals Japanese take Urals from Russians 1 infantry moved from India to West India Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Java to 21 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 21 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone Japanese take 22 Sea Zone from Americans 1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Americans scrambles 3 units out of Guam to defend against the attack in 21 Sea Zone Battle in Caucasus Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Japanese win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Volgograd Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Volgograd Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd Japanese win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 21 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 12 carriers, 5 destroyers, 19 fighters, 16 submarines and 8 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 24 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; ANZAC defend with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 16 submarines in 21 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/16 hits, 5.33 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians : 0.33 Japanese : -7.00 -
Just one hit with the sub. lol
I saved it here but as I think its safe to assume you will take that on a BB, I will continue to the next set of rolls before waiting.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 20
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 20 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 3 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Urals Japanese take Urals from Russians 1 infantry moved from India to West India Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Java to 21 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 21 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone Japanese take 22 Sea Zone from Americans 1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 destroyer, 13 fighters, 12 submarines and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Americans scrambles 3 units out of Guam to defend against the attack in 21 Sea Zone Battle in Caucasus Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Japanese win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Volgograd Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Volgograd Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd Japanese win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 21 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 12 carriers, 5 destroyers, 19 fighters, 16 submarines and 8 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 24 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; ANZAC defend with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 16 submarines in 21 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/16 hits, 5.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 12 carriers, 5 destroyers, 19 fighters and 8 tactical_bombers in 21 Sea Zone, round 2 : 19/35 hits, 18.50 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians : 0.33 Japanese : -6.50 -
a bit better with the rest of the fleet. I hope I didn’t presume to much with the sub hit or the scramble. Let me know the rest of the OOL
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Farmboy, invite your submarine commanders to take a swim…using the torpedo tube to exit at 300m depth.
Overall it’s 3.8 hits below average. In fact disappointing.
Is the battle deciding the game in case it goes big in one or another direction?
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You can do max defense in the first 1-2 rounds, and taking Anzac and UK units as casualties before US ones of same value. Keep DDs if you keep subs.
It’s similar to my TJ attack, he can retreat viably.
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