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[axis-dominion]

ohhh shots fired!!! this could get interesting fast!!! maybe adam needs to show you around his axis in vanilla?  :evil:

[axis-dominion]

there’ve been a lot of exhanges/disagreements between you two in recent times, i think the best way to settle some of those arguments is to battle it out in a best of 3 series or something like that. maybe one series in vanilla to start out with, then follow with a BM series. i think it’d be an enjoyable game for the community to see the former champion play against the world’s current top player.

[oysteilo]

It would definitely be interesting to see Gamerman01 +50 vs Adam514……

[gamerman01]

It would, but I think we’re both done with 2nd edition
I don’t like switching back and forth between rulesets - I’m all Balanced Mod now
And 2016 playoffs have started - game with VonAlba starting soon
I don’t think Adam wants to play me anyway.  He obviously likes to win, and win easily (as do I)
I play the game for fun, not to prove anything.

But my Allies +50 would definitely win more than 1/2 of the games against perfect Axis play
Oh, I just saw he said +60 is fair.  That’s ridiculous.  And yes I’m talking 1 unit per territory

[gamerman01]

I guess you need +60 when you don’t know the importance of islands

[-Pete]

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[666]

@Gamerman01:

And yes I’m talking 1 unit per territory

I wonder if it was wise to implement the 1 unit per territory rule that was adopted? Perhaps if we hadn’t changed our bid rules to this the game might have been better balanced w/lower bids? I think one could easily argue that this rule change “watered down” the bid and is why a 20+ bid was soon to be the norm?

Adam or G Man, do you think if stacking was allowed, that bids could be lower and effective in terms of balance?

[666]

Adam & Gamerman, let me add, as someone who has been playing here a long time, your results are very impressive!

[Adam514]

Yeah bids would be lower without that restriction, but games would be less fun since bids would be stacking 5 inf in Yunnan for example, which breaks that area of the map.

It was interesting to see that you think I like to win easily.

[gamerman01]

@JWW:

Adam or G Man, do you think if stacking was allowed, that bids could be lower and effective in terms of balance?

Yes, I think we just don’t like the cheese that can result, like a 21 bid making 7 infantry on Yunnan.

Ah, now I read Adam’s reply and see he says the same thing  :-)
Adam, you are so cool when you agree with me  :-D

[simon33]

For the record, I wasn’t at all confident of taking down Adam with a 50 bid. Thought it would be an interesting game though.

Curious about one thing, Adam: Are a J1 DOW every time player in G40?

[Adam514]

@simon33:

For the record, I wasn’t at all confident of taking down Adam with a 50 bid. Thought it would be an interesting game though.

Curious about one thing, Adam: Are a J1 DOW every time player in G40?

Yes, unless the Allied bid was something that discouraged it enough.

[simon33]

One G40 game where I was Axis, Omega1759 bid a USSR fighter and flew the 3 planes to Yunnan USSR1, with an inf bid too. I didn’t DOW as Japan and still only killed one inf! Axis conceded round 10.

I guess that’s the kind of bid you are referring to. Maybe it doesn’t have to be quite that extreme.

[Adam514]

@simon33:

One G40 game where I was Axis, Omega1759 bid a USSR fighter and flew the 3 planes to Yunnan USSR1, with an inf bid too. I didn’t DOW as Japan and still only killed one inf! Axis conceded round 10.

I guess that’s the kind of bid you are referring to. Maybe it doesn’t have to be quite that extreme.

I would actually ignore Yunnan in that case and still J1DOW, and that’s what I’ve done in the past when faced with that bid.

[simon33]

Struggling to think of the bid which would deter it then. Extra fighter/aaa in Philippines - sub in SZ37. Can’t see any of those stopping a J1. TT in SZ39? DD in SZ62? Still reaching.

[simon33]

Interesting that you would ignore Yunnan if strengthened enough. A UK1 DOW could occur as Omega1759 did and then enough could be moved into Yunnan to make it hard to take down.

[-Pete]

maybe a combo of that yunnan stack that you experienced, anzac inf in new guinea, anzac sub to protect your dd and trans, british pacific units positioned to retake FIC…

[Adam514]

Yes, units bidded to retake FIC in case of a J1DOW is quite a good deterrence, and if you needed more you could bid an inf in Borneo.

[simon33]

@Adam514:

Yes, units bidded to retake FIC in case of a J1DOW is quite a good deterrence, and if you needed more you could bid an inf in Borneo.

A legal bid can’t prevent you putting down a blocker on Shan State. Assuming SZ36 is navally blocked, FIC is guaranteed to be holdable to J2.

Borneo is similarly illegal.

[Adam514]

@simon33:

@Adam514:

Yes, units bidded to retake FIC in case of a J1DOW is quite a good deterrence, and if you needed more you could bid an inf in Borneo.

A legal bid can’t prevent you putting down a blocker on Shan State. Assuming SZ36 is navally blocked, FIC is guaranteed to be holdable to J2.

Borneo is similarly illegal.

I don’t know of someone who plays with those rules, but if you prefer you can bid a mech in Burma to take back FIC on UK1.