Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

Pizza dude had his posts deleted (about 20 of them… all identical), and I have recommended that he be IP banned.

Voting for J MCcain is like trying to pick up a turd by the “clean end”.

I will vote for whomever the dems put forth.  In 4 years you are going to have a mess in the government no matter who gets elected and I would rather the blame be on them.  I am more concerned about congress… the dems already have the white house (I count Johnny as a dem).

@Cmdr:

I call it the Donkey in Elephant Pants and Mask mold.

The Donkeys are the Republicans and the Elephants are the Democrats? Or viceversa?

Boy, sure USA politics are tricky … there are more guys and factions than in Silmarillion…

Republicans are the Elephants, Dems are the Donkeys.

there is only one reason as of right now to vote McCain over the others and thats for the Courts. his choice will be better then theres and it is the most vital as we have sceen from past press’s that a Dem apointed member of the supreim courts seam to be about the constatution being ever changing.

correct man.

gotta stop the democratic justices.  they make laws from the bench.

If he hadn’t voted against all the republican judges that were nominated, I would say that would be a reason to vote for Johnny.

Anyway, let’s retake Congress, there are more dems up then reps I believe and with Congress having the LOWEST APPROVAL RATING IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, about half as good as President Bush’s it should be EASY to retake it in a red tide in November.

Hell, to unseat Durbin, all the Republican here has to do is play Durbin’s speeches, in their entirety, with him saying US Soldiers are nazis, rapists, murders, baby-burners, etc.  That should be enough to get at least 1% of the Senate converted back to Republicanism.  Jim Obewiese out here seems to have a lock on Hastert’s seat, his democrat opponent is running ONLY on his own money since the state will NOT back his bid.

And, for the record, I don’t care WHO the president nominates for Judge.  He has to be approved by Congress.  If we own congress, we own the Judiciary.  Well, we would if our Republican leadership would grow a pair and dip them in brass.

Let the Dems have the White House.  Republicans in the Congress kept Bill Clinton from doing anything too horrible.  We can have a Dem who will go to Europe, bow to his masters, lick their feet, complain how backward and stupid our Congress is and “if only we had smarter congressmen and senators, we could be so much more like you” and we can stop every piece of legislation that leaves his desk and force him into signing our legislation into law with simple veto over-rides.

McCain did vote for Roberts and Alito (sp).
i also think it’s more Republicans up to lose then Dems this time around.

Darlin, there are more then Supreme Court Justices that Senators vote on.  He not only voted against the judges, but he sided with the Democrats to stop the Republicans from breaking the fillabusters (which were not even being held correctly, mind you) and allowing the votes to proceed to appoint some law enforcers, not law writers to the benches in this nation.

Who the hell was this ham guy? My god.

@Imperious:

Who the hell was this ham guy? My god.

Removed and submitted for an IP ban.  We have a rash of “food spam” lately  :|

@Cmdr:

…dip them in brass.

:-o :-o :-o
I got a visual of the Spanish Inquisition there!

@Cmdr:

If he hadn’t voted against all the republican judges that were nominated, I would say that would be a reason to vote for Johnny.

thats the part i was replying too. he did vote for the judges that were put up by republican pres’s. he didn’t how ever vote for republican judges as judges are non partisant  :-P

@Pervavita:

@Cmdr:

If he hadn’t voted against all the republican judges that were nominated, I would say that would be a reason to vote for Johnny.

thats the part i was replying too. he did vote for the judges that were put up by republican pres’s. he didn’t how ever vote for republican judges as judges are non partisant  :-P

No he didn’t.  He not only did not vote for them, but he sided with the Democrats to stop the Republican Majority from doing the work of the people and confirming these judges.

He may or may not have voted for the Supreme Court Justices.  But that’s like 2 out of hundreds.  Not exactly what I’d consider a majority.

GG - It’s Tuesday and I want my pizza!!!

ok.  i’m going to have to find all of McCains votes for republican president b/c Jen is up to her normal incorrect statements.

McCain voted tons of times for republican appointed judges.  a vast majority.

http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270

that will take you to McCain’s voting record on all but jedical stuff. i can’t find that though.

LIE: John McCain organized “The Gang of Fourteen” to Block the Confirmation of Conservative Judges.

TRUTH: John McCain organized “The Gang of Fourteen” to win- not to block -the Confirmation of Conservative Judges, and his efforts succeeded in the Senate.

This group of seven Republicans and Seven Democrats (representing a full 14% of the US Senate, obviously) ultimately broke the logjam that had delayed confirmation of some of the most conservative nominees of President Bush. Because of McCain’s leadership, Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Samuel Alito won Supreme Court confirmation without filibuster from the Democrats. He also secured the previously blocked confirmations of Appellate Judges William Pryor, Janice Rogers Brown, Priscilla Owen, and Brett Kavanaugh, previously filibustered by Democrats. At the same time, McCain and his “gang” managed to protect the right to filibuster – an important tool with obvious value now that Republicans find themselves in the minority. McCain has never opposed a Republican nominee for the Supreme Court; unlike some of his prominent fellow Republicans, he actively supported the nomination of Judge Robert Bork. His disagreement with Senate Republican leader Bill Frist on the “Gang of Fourteen” issues involved questions of tactics, not the goal of securing a judiciary that honors the principles of strict construction.

Source: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2008/01/23/six_big_lies_about_john_mccain

@Jermofoot:

GG - It’s Tuesday and I want my pizza!!!

Don’t you at least appreciate our Budget Cuts?!?! We need the Ammunitions and (garble) wine and cheese for (garble)… Besides all that think of the people of Oceania Comrade!

GG

If memory serves, only 3 judges did not come up for a vote in the Senate as a result of the actions of the “Gang of 14”

Dozens of others though DID come to a result that had previously been blocked by Dem filibuster…

Exacty the point I posted, but for hardliners your the devil if you consort with the “enemy” you know bipartisan cooperation… :roll: