Am heading out but will try to check this through the day. Won’t be able to read a save though.
L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) vs 666 (L)
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@Stucifer said in L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) vs 666 (L):
“They can also be scrambled to resist amphibious assaults from adjacent sea zones, whether or not the territory being assaulted is the territory containing the air base. They may defend against the enemy ships conducting the amphibious assault even if friendly ships are not present.”
where did you find this? I guess this game will be going on a bit longer now.
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Yep, sorry, can’t give you Berlin that easy! ;) The rule is found on page 16 of the Europe rulebook.
Think of it this way.
Japan is amphibiously attacking India and there isn’t any navy there, but UK has 3 fighters and a tactical bomber defending in India. Japan has 3 battleships and 3 cruisers. You can choose to scramble the tactical to block the 6 bombard shots, and most players would. So there you are scrambling against an empty sea zone where there is an amphibious assault taking place.
The same would hold true if Japan was attack Ceylon, although that is less likely, or if the UK was landing in Yugoslavia or Northern Italy, and sea zone 99 was empty but you have figs/tacs in S. Italy and the airbase is operable. And it holds true if the attacked territory is empty–you are defending the sea zone, not the territory.
Again, PtV makes this more complicated by also allowing carrier scrambles, but then having slightly different rules for the carrier scrambles. ¯ _(ツ)_/¯
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 11 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 5 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 49 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 31 Sea Zone Americans attack with 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 31 Sea Zone Americans win with 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 13 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 31 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 27 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 2.50 Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33Territory Summary for Americans :
Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Midway : 1 airfield Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry Central United States : 1 aaGun and 1 factory_major Wake Island : 1 airfield Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 harbour, 4 infantry, 3 marines and 2 tactical_bombers United Kingdom : 1 bomber and 1 fighter Tunisia : 1 flag Morocco : 1 aaGun Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 7 infantry 99 Sea Zone : 1 submarine Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry 128 Sea Zone : 1 submarine 113 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports 31 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine 65 Sea Zone : 1 flag 104 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 transports 95 Sea Zone : 2 submarines 11 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 transport 27 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 16 fighters, 15 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transportsProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 57 / 75 Russians : 32 / 32 Japanese : 68 / 91 Americans : 53 / 78 Chinese : 6 / 14 British : 38 / 47 UK_Pacific : 7 / 13 Italians : 10 / 1 ANZAC : 2 / 0 French : 5 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 11 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 5 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 49 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 31 Sea Zone Americans attack with 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 31 Sea Zone Americans win with 13 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 13 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 31 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 27 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Combat - Chinese Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Yunnan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Western India to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese Combat - British Battle in Java Non Combat Move - British 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Western India to Eastern India 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern India to Yunnan 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to 40 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Stalingrad to Northwest Persia 1 armour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 fighter placed in 113 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Iraq Turn Complete - British British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 transport placed in 40 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 132 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5,2,4,3 UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Units Change Ownership Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 transportCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 1.17 Americans regular : 2.50 Japanese regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -0.33Territory Summary for Americans, British, Chinese and UK_Pacific :
Stalingrad : 2 fighters Kwangsi : 2 infantry Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Midway : 1 airfield Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry Central United States : 1 aaGun and 1 factory_major Wake Island : 1 airfield Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 harbour, 4 infantry, 3 marines and 2 tactical_bombers Yunnan : 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 23 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys Szechwan : 1 artillery and 3 infantry Northern Sinkiang : 1 artillery and 1 infantry Gibraltar : 1 airfield and 1 harbour Iceland : 1 airfield Scotland : 1 airfield Quebec : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour United Kingdom : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 6 infantry Egypt : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Malta : 1 airfield Shan State : 1 infantry Eastern India : 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber Burma : 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 6 infantry Libya : 1 flag Ethiopia : 1 flag Italian Somaliland : 1 flag Syria : 1 flag Tunisia : 1 flag Algeria : 1 flag Morocco : 1 aaGun Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 6 fighters, 1 harbour, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber 99 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 6 submarines 100 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers Southern Persia : 1 flag Java : 1 flag, 1 infantry 128 Sea Zone : 1 submarine Brazil : 1 flag 113 Sea Zone : 1 artillery, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 8 transports 31 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine 93 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer 65 Sea Zone : 1 flag Iraq : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry Crete : 1 flag 104 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 transports 40 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 transport 95 Sea Zone : 2 submarines 11 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 transport 27 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 3 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 16 fighters, 15 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports 42 Sea Zone : 1 transportProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 57 / 75 Russians : 32 / 32 Japanese : 62 / 91 Americans : 53 / 78 Chinese : 8 / 13 British : 38 / 47 UK_Pacific : 11 / 13 Italians : 10 / 1 ANZAC : 2 / 0 French : 5 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
@Stucifer ahh Europe rule book. I never got into those small theatre games. Hopefully I’ll remember this rule, it has probably hurt me not knowing or remembering it.
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@666 Yeah I played Global before playing either Europe or Pacific standalone. I do enjoy the standalone games for face-to-face since they can be completed in less than 8 hours 😂
All the rules are the same between the theaters, of course–They do have some differences in presentation but the bones are still the same.
I have both the rulebooks as PDFs just to reference occasionally. You can download them free here if you want: https://axisallies.com/rule-books/
PtV is a little difficult to keep track of some specific rulings on, because a lot of things reference BM, or change things that BM adds, and there are unique situations the rulebook probably shouldn’t apply to. Example, US boats not necessarily being legal to be in sea zone 33 because it touches a Japanese territory unless they are at war. This is a specific rule from the Pacific rulebook, but in that map there are no islands in the pacific that touch multiple sea zones like they do in PtV.
That's 'cause a droid don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 11 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 5 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to France 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,5,3,1,3,5,5,6,6,1,4,6 Italians collect 0 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 1 PUCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Stucifer thanks for this, yes, I have always gone to BM to check on rules, I guess that is one reason why I can’t remember the empty SZ scramble rule, why allow it for sz’s but not land territory?
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 11 Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 79 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Territory Summary for ANZAC and French :
United Kingdom : 2 infantry Tobruk : 1 flag New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour Northwest Persia : 1 fighter and 3 infantry 40 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 2 destroyersProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 57 / 75 Russians : 32 / 32 Japanese : 62 / 91 Americans : 53 / 78 Chinese : 8 / 13 British : 38 / 47 UK_Pacific : 11 / 13 Italians : 10 / 1 ANZAC : 2 / 0 French : 5 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
@666 said in L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) vs 666 (L):
@Stucifer thanks for this, yes, I have always gone to BM to check on rules, I guess that is one reason why I can’t remember the empty SZ scramble rule, why allow it for sz’s but not land territory?
As far as I know, it’s only that way for balance. Since air bases scrambling to land battles is new for PtV we’d have to ask Adam/RegularJoe.
Would love to let carriers scramble to protect subs and transports, and air bases to scramble anywhere, but I recognize that some limitations were probably found in testing that made the game play better.
I didn’t play back when it used to be no limit to carrier scrambles from a sea zone (so you could have your stack of 12 carriers in sz 27 scramble 12 fighters to protect 31). I can only imagine how nasty that was as a problem. Good that they balanced it down to 3, same as an air base.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 12
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 12 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Caucasus to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov Germans take Rostov from Russians 1 armour moved from Kursk to Tambov Germans take Tambov from Russians 1 armour moved from Tambov to Rostov 3 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod 2 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Vologda 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Nenetsia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Nenetsia 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Nenetsia 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda Combat - Germans Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakhstan Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan Germans win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Nenetsia Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Nenetsia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Nenetsia, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Nenetsia, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Nenetsia Germans win, taking Nenetsia from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 2 armour and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 2 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Vologda 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Nenetsia to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Nenetsia to Norway 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 10 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 6 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kursk to Rostov 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kazakhstan to Southern Caucasus 10 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 6 artilleries moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 aaGun moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 33 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 1 artillery moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 17 artilleries moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter moved from France to Norway 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany 2 infantry moved from Southern France to France 1 aaGun moved from Southern France to France 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 5 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 8 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania Place Units - Germans 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in France 10 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 infantry placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,1,6,5,6,6,5,5,1,4,5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6,1,1 Germans collect 54 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2.33 Germans regular : -0.17 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 12
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 12 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus Russians take Northern Caucasus from Germans 1 armour moved from Stalingrad to Tambov Russians take Tambov from Germans 1 armour moved from Tambov to Stalingrad 1 bomber moved from Komi to Nenetsia 1 infantry moved from Gorky to Nenetsia 1 fighter moved from Russia to Nenetsia 2 infantry moved from Samara to Kazakhstan 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan Combat - Russians Battle in Nenetsia Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Nenetsia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Nenetsia 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Nenetsia Russians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakhstan Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kazakhstan Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kazakhstan Russians win, taking Kazakhstan from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Southern Belarus from Germans to Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Stalingrad 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Stalingrad 1 fighter moved from Nenetsia to Stalingrad 1 artillery moved from Samara to Russia 1 bomber moved from Nenetsia to Russia 4 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 2 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur Place Units - Russians 2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6,2,1 Russians collect 28 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 28 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 30 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -0.17Territory Summary for Russians :
Kazakhstan : 2 infantry Southern Belarus : 1 infantry Siberia : 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_minor and 7 infantry Russia : 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major and 13 infantry Samara : 1 aaGun and 9 infantry Buryatia : 1 infantry Urals : 1 factory_minor Gorky : 1 infantry Sakha : 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Northern Caucasus : 1 infantry Stalingrad : 3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 76 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Amur : 1 infantry Northeast Persia : 1 flagProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 58 / 69 Russians : 31 / 30 Japanese : 62 / 91 Americans : 53 / 78 Chinese : 8 / 13 British : 38 / 47 UK_Pacific : 11 / 13 Italians : 10 / 1 ANZAC : 2 / 0 French : 5 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
I am leaving on a trip and won’t be back for a week. Might have Wi-Fi at a couple points but not planning on it.
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@Stucifer sorry for the delay, in Mexico, family wedding, thought I would have time to get a move in but it isn’t looking good. I’ll be back to normal next week.
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