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farmboy · Jun 23, 2023, 9:49 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
        2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from 63 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in 48 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 48 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking Borneo from Japanese with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
        Battle in Malaya
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 5 fighters and 2 infantry
            Italians defend with 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking Malaya from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 5 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters, 1 infantry, 13 submarines and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        2 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        4 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Southern France
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Novgorod to Northwest Persia
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern France
        3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in Western United States
        2 infantry placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
        Chinese buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
        7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 40 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan

    Place Units - Chinese
        6 infantry placed in Yunnan
        4 infantry placed in Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 30 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        4 fighters moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 mech_infantry moved from West India to Persia
              British take Persia from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
              UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese

    Combat - British
        Battle in Egypt
            British attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Egypt
            British win, taking Egypt from Germans with 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        4 fighters moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 19 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
        5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 5 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
        2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        6 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        5 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        3 fighters moved from Southern France to Tobruk
        1 aaGun moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        2 infantry moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 71 Sea Zone to Union of South Africa

    Place Units - British
        2 artilleries placed in Union of South Africa
        1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1.17
Germans regular : 0.00
British regular : 0.67

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AndrewAAGamer · Jun 23, 2023, 10:17 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
            Italians win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Northern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
        5 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
        6 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6,5,4,4,3
        Italians collect 6 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Italians regular : 0.50

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farmboy · Jun 23, 2023, 11:46 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 24 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from Java to India
        1 fighter moved from Java to 54 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Yunnan

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Northwest Persia

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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AndrewAAGamer · Jun 24, 2023, 5:23 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 15

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 53 PUs; 
        Germans buy 13 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Karelia
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        6 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        2 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        4 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        4 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Vyborg
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
            Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Karelia
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
            Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Egypt
            Germans attack with 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys in Egypt, round 2 : 15/46 hits, 13.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
            Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Poland
        2 bombers moved from Karelia to Norway
        2 bombers moved from Vyborg to Norway
        4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 24 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        4 armour moved from Norway to Finland
        5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        5 armour moved from Norway to Finland
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Western Germany
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy
        7 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Norway
        10 infantry placed in Germany
        3 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,4,2,5,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,1
        Germans collect 46 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 60 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 1.00
Germans regular : 3.67
British regular : -0.33

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AndrewAAGamer · Jun 24, 2023, 5:29 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 15

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 53 PUs; 
        Germans buy 13 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Karelia
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        6 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        2 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        4 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        4 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Vyborg
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
            Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Karelia
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
            Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Egypt
            Germans attack with 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys in Egypt, round 2 : 15/46 hits, 13.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
            Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 10 armour, 6 artilleries, 14 infantry and 16 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Poland
        2 bombers moved from Karelia to Norway
        2 bombers moved from Vyborg to Norway
        4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 24 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        4 armour moved from Norway to Finland
        5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        5 armour moved from Norway to Finland
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Western Germany
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
        6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Italy
        7 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Norway
        10 infantry placed in Germany
        3 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,4,2,5,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,1
        Germans collect 46 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 1.00
Germans regular : 3.67
British regular : -0.33

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AndrewAAGamer · Jun 24, 2023, 5:30 PM

NCM change. Please use latest file.

farmboy · Jun 24, 2023, 5:49 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
              Russians take Iraq from Germans
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
              Russians take Belarus from Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
              Russians take Timguska from Japanese
        3 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Karelia
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Karelia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
            Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 artilleries moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Bryansk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Bryansk

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia
        1 infantry placed in Novgorod
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Korea: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Manchuria: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5,1,4,2,2,5,1,1
        Russians collect 29 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 29 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33
Russians regular : 2.17

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AndrewAAGamer · Jun 24, 2023, 8:28 PM

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Sumatra
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 15 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Philippines to 37 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 44 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        2 cruisers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
              Japanese take 42 Sea Zone from Americans
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

    Combat - Japanese
        Japanese creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone
        Battle in 43 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 43 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Java
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Java from Americans with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 55 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 46 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 6 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/12 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 46 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 15 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 15 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Shan State, round 2 : 7/23 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 15 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Sumatra
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sumatra
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in Sumatra, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Sumatra
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra
            Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Ceylon
        3 fighters moved from Shan State to Ceylon
        1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Philippines
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
        2 battleships, 13 carriers, 4 destroyers and 11 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 42 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        3 infantry placed in French Indo China
        8 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : -0.17
UK_Pacific regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : 1.67

Savegame

farmboy · Jun 25, 2023, 3:53 AM

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        6 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
        6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        6 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        4 fighters moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 5 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 5 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/18 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 armour, 5 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
        5 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        5 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Novgorod
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 10 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 17 fighters, 3 infantry, 13 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 30 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier placed in 110 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        3 infantry placed in Southern France
        1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
        Chinese buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        3 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 47 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

    Place Units - Chinese
        10 infantry placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 29 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British repair damage of 4x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 28 PUs; 
        British buy 1 artillery and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 armour and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
              British take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Germans
        1 artillery moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        9 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China

    Combat - British
        Battle in French Indo China
            British attack with 1 artillery and 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 10 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China
            British win, taking French Indo China from Japanese with 1 artillery and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        9 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
        3 infantry moved from India to Burma
        1 aaGun, 7 artilleries, 5 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        3 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern France
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
        2 artilleries moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Eastern Persia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to West India
        9 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
        2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
        2 fighters moved from Tobruk to Southern France
        1 destroyer moved from 123 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
        3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        3 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 armour and 1 fighter placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 armour and 1 fighter

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -3.00
Japanese regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.33
British regular : 1.83

Savegame

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2023, 4:23 PM

I see no reason to continue this farce. There is no possible way the Axis can win.

Congratulations on the win! That was some pretty spectacular Allied play. The best I have seen.

It didn’t help I made at least 5 mistakes I can remember with most of those in the Pacific. I contribute that to your very offensive attacking Allied play. You made me make multiple decisions in the Pacific that turned out to be bad choices.

Would love another try to see if I correct my mistakes if the Axis can come up with a different conclusion.

Same sides, same Bid amount?

farmboy · Jun 25, 2023, 4:47 PM

@andrewaagamer Great game! You have a very tough axis strategy and for much of hte game it felt like one mistake or one dicing would be the end of me. Even at the end, you were doing a great job staying in it despite my economic advantage.

I’ll comment more later. I’ll certainly be up for a rematch, but need to decide if I can do that now or if its better to wait to close out one of my other games first. At some point I have the BM final coming too and I’m finding it tough to keep up with 3 games as it is.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2023, 4:49 PM

Totally understand. Just let me know when you have the time for a rematch. Love the competition!

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 25, 2023, 6:09 PM

I do have one thought. Early on, J1, you gave me an even battle in Yunnan.

51% Axis win
6% draw
43% Allied win

I contemplated making the attack but decided against it thinking it may be a game winning or losing battle and I didn’t want get diced. However, since I lost badly, I wonder if that is a battle the Axis should take assuming the two players are of equal skill.

Do you think it is a game winning or losing battle?

Assuming a draw or an Axis win that means 57% of the time the Axis win and 43% they lose. I certainly would be happy to win 57% of the time against a person of your caliber.

Assuming a draw Russia loses 3 planes. 2 of which were starting units and one from the Bid. Japan loses 4 planes. Which hurts more? Japan being down 4 planes or Russia being down to just one fighter? My gut is it hurts Russia a tiny bit more than it hurts Japan as it makes it easier for Germany to take Moscow.

If it is a game winning or losing battle then a lesser player would certainly make that attack.

GovZ · Jun 26, 2023, 12:16 AM

@andrewaagamer said in L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60):

I do have one thought. Early on, J1, you gave me an even battle in Yunnan.

51% Axis win
6% draw
43% Allied win

I contemplated making the attack but decided against it thinking it may be a game winning or losing battle and I didn’t want get diced. However, since I lost badly, I wonder if that is a battle the Axis should take assuming the two players are of equal skill.

Do you think it is a game winning or losing battle?

I’m not sure if it is a game deciding battle, but it feels pretty significant. I attempted this in a face to face game this weekend, and for 13 in bid, it seems to help hold India as well as bringing the Med fleet around.

Assuming a draw or an Axis win that means 57% of the time the Axis win and 43% they lose. I certainly would be happy to win 57% of the time against a person of your caliber.

Assuming a draw Russia loses 3 planes. 2 of which were starting units and one from the Bid. Japan loses 4 planes. Which hurts more? Japan being down 4 planes or Russia being down to just one fighter? My gut is it hurts Russia a tiny bit more than it hurts Japan as it makes it easier for Germany to take Moscow.

If it is a game winning or losing battle then a lesser player would certainly make that attack.

I think a draw may be an Allied win - China can still buy artillery and land the fighter there. Also, those odds assume both bombers are attacking Yunnan, so the BS in 37 survives.

Making Japan risk a 50 / 50 battle on J1 is a win for the Allies.

farmboy · Jun 26, 2023, 1:20 AM

@andrewaagamer because I’ve mostly played BM (and my thinking around allied strategy really developed while I was playing BM), its not a move I have a lot of experience with. BM gives the soviets and Japanese more of an incentive not to declare war on eachother and gives the axis more of an incentive for a later Japanese DOW.

So others might have a better sense of what happens when that move goes south for the allies. I knew it wasn’t a risk you typically go for and had checked out a couple of the games you had played where the allies did do that, and saw that you didn’t attack. So I thought it was pretty likely you wouldn’t go for it.

I was also fairly certain you would go for the British Battleship (and I think it may have been a mistake not too) and so that removes at least one bomber.

It is definitely bad for the Soviets to lose that air. And I’m definitely replacing at least one of them so that means the Soviets are also down 3 land units. But because I only need that air after the Germans invade in round 3 (or later when they reach Moscow), I do have time to make that up. My strategy for defending Moscow is always about allied pressure in the West and in making sure I have a ton of allied air that can reach from the Middle East (if not also from Greece and/or Norway) and so I would try to make sure a bit more allied air is going to be available for that. And knowing I have a weaker Japan makes it a bit easier to direct more resources to the Atlantic

And because Japan loses that air in a J1 DOW, its going to be immediately felt. I haven’t really looked, but I suspect it will mean, as Govz notes, I can stack Yunnan, and India, the US fleet, and the Soviet stack are all going to be a little safer.

But I’m definitely going for it in large part because I’m fairly confident my opponent isn’t going to attack, and its not a move I would necessarily make against a weaker player, precisely because they are more likely to go for it and let the dice determine the game. If Japan does go for it, and the dice go their way, the allies are in trouble.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 26, 2023, 2:58 AM

Thanks for the well thought out reply. I agree with your assessment that against equal players it is unlikely the Axis will make that attack. A weaker player certainly would try it, and hope for the big payday.

I count not attacking that UK battleship as one of my many errors. Under my normal J1 I ignore it as usually the Allies drop an infantry into Yunnan and I really want to take Yunnan so I put both bombers in that battle. Since I could not attack Yunnan I should have hit the UK BB instead, just being stupid, and not thinking to change things based on what you did.

In fact, I have another game that the Allied player did exactly what you did and I did hit the UK BB. Live and learn.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 26, 2023, 3:47 AM

@andrewaagamer I disagree with your assessment, Andrew. Against equal opponents, it is worth rolling the dice in Yunnan on J1 with that type of stack. If the Allies get more hits than the Axis on turn 1, retreat. You likely only lost your ground units. Maybe one or two planes if you are really unlucky.

If Japan is ahead on the dice after the first turn, they likely will win the territory without losing their uber-important bombers. It is a major blow to China as they might not be able to stack on Yunnan on J2, and a huge blow to Russia as they lost those critical planes that are necessary to defend Moscow and strike surgical counterattacks against German invaders.

Having the ability to retreat after seeing the results tips my recommendation towards Yunnan strike for equally-matched opponents. Definitely avoid against vastly inferior foes. Curious, based on my skill level, what did you think your chance of a W was at the start of the playoff match? 85%?

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 26, 2023, 1:30 PM

@arthur-bomber-harris said in L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60):

@andrewaagamer I disagree with your assessment, Andrew. Against equal opponents, it is worth rolling the dice in Yunnan on J1 with that type of stack. If the Allies get more hits than the Axis on turn 1, retreat. You likely only lost your ground units. Maybe one or two planes if you are really unlucky.

If Japan is ahead on the dice after the first turn, they likely will win the territory without losing their uber-important bombers. It is a major blow to China as they might not be able to stack on Yunnan on J2, and a huge blow to Russia as they lost those critical planes that are necessary to defend Moscow and strike surgical counterattacks against German invaders.

Having the ability to retreat after seeing the results tips my recommendation towards Yunnan strike for equally-matched opponents. Definitely avoid against vastly inferior foes.

Now that is a really interesting perspective I had not considered. Roll the dice and see if they are in your favor, if not retreat. Good dice you continue, average or bad dice you can retreat.

Both sides have a 77% chance of getting 3 hits, 49% chance of getting 4 hits, 23% chance of 5 hits and 7% chance of 6 hits. So what you are looking for as the attacker is getting one more hit than your opponent while risking about a 23% chance of losing at least one plane.

With one more loss by the defender, say 4 vs 3, it makes the remaining battle 82% for the attacker with average remaining units the 2 bombers. VERY interesting.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 26, 2023, 1:31 PM

@arthur-bomber-harris said in L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60):

Curious, based on my skill level, what did you think your chance of a W was at the start of the playoff match? 85%?

Well, I always think I am gong to win. However, if I had to put a percentage on it I think 85% is spot on.

AndrewAAGamer · Jun 26, 2023, 1:34 PM

@andrewaagamer said in L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60):

@arthur-bomber-harris said in L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60):

@andrewaagamer I disagree with your assessment, Andrew. Against equal opponents, it is worth rolling the dice in Yunnan on J1 with that type of stack. If the Allies get more hits than the Axis on turn 1, retreat. You likely only lost your ground units. Maybe one or two planes if you are really unlucky.

If Japan is ahead on the dice after the first turn, they likely will win the territory without losing their uber-important bombers. It is a major blow to China as they might not be able to stack on Yunnan on J2, and a huge blow to Russia as they lost those critical planes that are necessary to defend Moscow and strike surgical counterattacks against German invaders.

Having the ability to retreat after seeing the results tips my recommendation towards Yunnan strike for equally-matched opponents. Definitely avoid against vastly inferior foes.

Now that is a really interesting perspective I had not considered. Roll the dice and see if they are in your favor, if not retreat. Good dice you continue, average or bad dice you can retreat.

Both sides have a 77% chance of getting 3 hits, 49% chance of getting 4 hits, 23% chance of 5 hits and 7% chance of 6 hits. So what you are looking for as the attacker is getting one more hit than your opponent while risking about a 23% chance of losing at least one plane.

With one more loss by the defender, say 4 vs 3, it makes the remaining battle 82% for the attacker with average remaining units the 2 bombers. VERY interesting.

Of course, you are giving up the UK BB battle for that look see. Still a very interesting viewpoint.

L23 2nd Ed OOB AndrewAAGamer (X) vs farmboy (Allies+60)

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 14

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