Disappointed

It’s not that bad. This isn’t another Global Alpha 1-45 thing.

Only

Russian collapse

American entry and disposition

And units in the same space are the only things that require changes. And they got addressed by Kreighund.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30573.0

Ive played 3 games. 2 allied victories to one CP win.

I think it best to not bother with the optional Russian revolution rule

I think there were more than a few people for whom the Revolution was a selling point. I am at least one. It being optional does not excuse it being poorly implemented.

The RR would be best if the CP could choose to DECIDE to accept the Armistice or not while Russia fulfills the requirement, so that Russia can’t engineer itself into one.

I completely agree with you. And that’s what I think if its a disadvantage to the CP if they lose a victory city.

I cannot see why the RR is not considered a victory for the CPs.
Would losing potential  Russian income and Moscow as a VP, because of the RR also mean the CPs lose the game as the Western Front will have been neglected in the push east?
Any German units sent that way have to march at a snail’s pace to return West to take Paris and Rome and will probably not be of much use by then anyway.

I thought the RR was meant to help the CPs, but cannot see how it can.
Perhaps when RR happens, all CP units in the East should be allowed to transfer West in one move (in a one off railroad movement).
Otherwise I do not think I would ever agree to play with a RR and that saddens me, as you know I love history and trying to emulate the RR brings WW1 nearer to historical accuracy.

@wittmann:

I cannot see why the RR is not considered a victory for the CPs.
Would losing potential  Russian income and Moscow as a VP, because of the RR also mean the CPs lose the game as the Western Front will have been neglected in the push east?
Any German units sent that way have to march at a snail’s pace to return West to take Paris and Rome and will probably not be of much use by then anyway.

I thought the RR was meant to help the CPs, but cannot see how it can.
Perhaps when RR happens, all CP units in the East should be allowed to transfer West in one move (in a one off railroad movement).
Otherwise I do not think I would ever agree to play with a RR and that saddens me, as you know I love history and trying to emulate the RR brings WW1 nearer to historical accuracy.

Agreed.  I won’t play with Revolution Rules either.

Even if the CP still got the VC after RR, they still would be getting denied 12 or more IPCs that they just spent a good portion of their economy on trying to capture.

I had one idea, make RR a turn, say 4 or 5 or 6.
So Germany can try to get some tts and maybe even take their capital before it happens, OR, Germany can focus on the Western front and play defensively holding Russia off until RR occurs.

Think that would be better than the current mess

Or the Russians have to lose, say x number of units or Moscow surrounded (to limit the 60+ Inf stacks in Moscow) for it to go revolution.  AND it count for victory.

@wittmann:

Perhaps when RR happens, all CP units in the East should be allowed to transfer West in one move (in a one off railroad movement).

I proposed this back before the game even came out, and looking at the game now, I think it would be helpful, but it wouldn’t fix the revolution.

RR needs replacing with Russian Civil War.

More complicated to explain, much simpler to implement in practice.

We played a game again today and my friend who played as the allies even said it was stupid that RR would not count as a victory city and told me he didn’t want to play with the RR rules because he thought they where not fair.

Morning Koningstiger.
You should find the answers on page 14 of the FAQ.
I am not sure if the RR rules have been agreed upon as yet.

US can buy transports, and as far as I can tell can move them anywhere, but they cannot load them with units until they are at war.

Personally I don’t think any US ships should be allowed to move over the pond before then, it just creates unwanted confusion.

I didn’t find the need to move the US transports before turn 4- you probably want 5-6 US transports landing in Rome or Belgium in the nick of time.