Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)

@panther said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

@ussgordoncaptain

By the rulebook (Europe 1940 2ed, page 10):
“Friendly neutrals … … They can be moved into (but
not through) as a noncombat move by land units of a
power that is at war (see “Noncombat Move,” page 22).
This moves the territory out of its neutral status at the
end of the Noncombat Move phase”.

So the answer is “No”.

You’d need to move the mech infantry and the regular infantry at the same time.
The mech infantry can’t “move through”.

Can I just ask a follow on question here. I know all combat movement happens simultaneously, but does the same apply for NCM? So what stops one unit from claiming the friendly neutral while another unit moves 2 through the territory after the first unit claimed it?

Would appear to be a loophole but I don’t see why it doesn’t apply.

@simon33 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

@panther said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

@ussgordoncaptain

By the rulebook (Europe 1940 2ed, page 10):
“Friendly neutrals … … They can be moved into (but
not through) as a noncombat move by land units of a
power that is at war (see “Noncombat Move,” page 22).
This moves the territory out of its neutral status at the
end of the Noncombat Move phase”.

So the answer is “No”.

You’d need to move the mech infantry and the regular infantry at the same time.
The mech infantry can’t “move through”.

Can I just ask a follow on question here. I know all combat movement happens simultaneously, but does the same apply for NCM? So what stops one unit from claiming the friendly neutral while another unit moves 2 through the territory after the first unit claimed it?

Would appear to be a loophole but I don’t see why it doesn’t apply.

The neutral territory is neutral until the end of Noncombat Move Phase (see quote above).
So let’s assume an Infantry and a Mech enter the “first” neutral territory ‘together’. The Mech would not be able to “continue” its move as it may not go through the first territory, that still is neutral (until the end of NCM).

@ussgordoncaptain said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

Can German troops Enter Italian controlled eastern poland while germany is not at war with russia (and therefore collect the 5 IPC national objective)

thanks Panther

Yes, as Eastern Poland - being Italian at that time - is friendly to Germany.

Japan/USA/British/ANZAC question

End of round2: No war
End of Japan 3: No war
End of USA 3: USA declares war on japan
End of British/Anzac 3: No war with japan

Japan 4. Will a british/Anzac destroyer block a japan attack on USA or can Japan ignore it and not declear war on British/ANZAC?

HMMMM, I think yes, they may

Japan can ignore it because Japan is still not at war with UK/ANZAC

@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

Japan can ignore it because Japan is still not at war with UK/ANZAC

good to get it confirmed! (and good to see you back in business)

Thank you! Feeling good.
I hope you’re not terrorizing your opponent TOO much with that.

@oysteilo said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

End of British/Anzac 3: No war with japan

Why would any Allied Player NOT declare war on Japan during Round 3? There is no detriment to declaring war at this point and there are many positives. Don’t get it??? :shrug:

Right. Unless… The allied player wanted the attack on USA so that round 4 they can do the ANZAC DOW after blocking Japan transports, but that’s far-fetched. Especially with NO’s and everything.

Map?

I mean, I can’t think of any other reason off-hand

@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):

Yes, subs can be ignored during combat movement and noncombat movement nor do they block loading or unloading of transports. (page 13, bottom paragraph)

The exception is amphibious assaults - by transport(s) only - over sub(s) that are in the destination sea zone (unescorted transports can go over subs in other seazones on the way) are not allowed. You just need one escorting warship (which could just be a sub) to overcome this, and you can still ignore the defending subs. (page 16 under transports)

What if you initate combat in the SZ in question, eg move a DD in to attack the sub? Can the transport still ignore the sub and load during CM? I assume not, since the SZ is not friendly anymore?

@myygames As long as you are loading you can ignore the sub.

Attacking units don’t make the SZ hostile.

Thanks, guys! I had that wrong in my mind, solves some issues for me!

Just noticed that my rules don’t have the bit about the Friendly Neutrals only moving out of Neutral status at the end of the NCM. Interesting, must have been added later.

Got a player asking if China can enter Burma before UK and Japan are at war. You would think they can’t, but I can’t find any rule that prohibits China from entering Burma before Japan/UK war status (looked in the FAQ that I have, too)

It looks like all the rules regarding China/UK/Japan and at war issues are that Allies entering or flying over China is considered an act of war by Japan, but not vice-versa.

Am I missing something? It seems wrong that China and UK can share a territory when UK is not at war with Japan. Thanks

@gamerman01

No, you don’t miss anything.

China and UK are allied from the beginning of the game. The Burma (and Kwangtung)-exception allows Chinese movement into (only) these (allied) UK territories. That is the rule that is part of the “China Rules” and this is totally independent from any status of war/political situation between UK and Japan or whomever, as you pointed out correctly.

So this actually isn’t a rules question but rather a question of “game design”, that maybe @Krieghund has an answer to.

@gamerman01 There is nothing unusual about this situation. Neither China nor UK is neutral, as China is at war with Japan and UK with Germany and Italy, so they are free to occupy each other’s territories. However, as you pointed out, UK (or any other Allied power) can’t move into China unless at war with Japan. This is because Japan doesn’t want any interference in its affairs by European powers, but Chinese forces moving out of China are not a concern.

Thanks a lot guys, your speed is amazing.
I haven’t played enough games the last 4-5 years, I had forgotten the part about UK being at war (with Germany/Italy) and being allied with China from the beginning. Then it’s not weird, gotcha.

Have a great day -

It is legal but it shouldn’t be IMO.