I’ve tried priming these twice and the primer just won’t stick. Are these a different plastic somehow?
Painted playing pieces
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Those pieces are much more elaborate than the ones I painted. I also recognized that at this scale, historical accuracy is just not a priority. Also for me I wanted them to use the idea, “This color goes to this nation” sort of approach. My most elaborate ones are for the Japanese. Back when I was playing Revised, I also wanted two colors of UK troops because of the temperate and tropical environments. I may have painted Marines for the US in the Pacific if I had stuck with it long enough.
For the Japanese, I used three colors for “bodies”, sand, IJN Green and IJA Green. I added a lot of meatballs and silver for glass on the fighters. I also painted the lower hull of all ships with Battleship Grey.
The UK were painted either a regular green or a color called Armor Sand for tropical uniforms.
The decks of US warships were painted “wood” and the superstructures were painted battleship grey.
Russian Pieces were colored a pale brown. German pieces were colored European Grey. Chinese pieces were going to be a dark brown.
Now I have a new challange to find colors for French, Italian and Aussie pieces.
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so… the US fleet is as good as ready now… Maybe not historicly correct, but playable :)
ok?
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Good stuff chrillenilsson like you say they may not be totaly accurate but they look like ships rather than olive plastic and are easilly distinquishable as american. good decals are they from ghq?
I am also haveing trouble coming up with ideas for the anzacs to make them destinquishable from the brits.
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i am happy and there is no mistaking those italian ships. i dont know what country used the deck design i got from a ghq painted set of ships but i thought that would good forthe italians
Nice work! It must take a lot of squinting to paint sculpts which are that small…or do you use some sort of magnifying glass?
The diagonal recognition stripes on the decks which you mention were indeed used by the Italian Navy. I’m not aware of any other country using them.
By the way, the shot of the cat sleeping in the box is a great picture!
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Good stuff chrillenilsson like you say they may not be totaly accurate but they look like ships rather than olive plastic and are easilly distinquishable as american. good decals are they from ghq?
I am also haveing trouble coming up with ideas for the anzacs to make them destinquishable from the brits.
thanks…
I agree… And yes, the decals ae from them. I really like them and they are affordable. I live in Sweden, Europe and still they came pretty quick. The thing about the decals is that they dont break that easy, which is good :)Keep up the good work!
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@CWO:
i am happy and there is no mistaking those italian ships. i dont know what country used the deck design i got from a ghq painted set of ships but i thought that would good forthe italians
Nice work! It must take a lot of squinting to paint sculpts which are that small…or do you use some sort of magnifying glass?
The diagonal recognition stripes on the decks which you mention were indeed used by the Italian Navy. I’m not aware of any other country using them.
By the way, the shot of the cat sleeping in the box is a great picture!
Well, I dont know… I´m not using any magnifying glass. Some paint end up in the wrong place, buy hey… That must have happened in WWII as well, for real :) I guess…
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my cat made a peacefull protest against the war while we had a break by sleeping in our dice box.
Imagine if it had done a ‘violent’ protest by killing all the plastic soldiers :-D
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@13thguardsriflediv:
my cat made a peacefull protest against the war while we had a break by sleeping in our dice box.
Imagine if it had done a ‘violent’ protest by killing all the plastic soldiers :-D
its only funny becuase it didnt happen Luckily shes too old for that. On the other hand i did find the german artillary all over the painting table this morning were she steped over my peices to get to my wifes cereal bowl for the last of the milk.
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Thats a result that the stripe pattern is Italian. i guess there was a reason it felt right to go with the stripes.
Some more germans finished
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Thats a result that the stripe pattern is Italian. i guess there was a reason it felt right to go with the stripes.
Some more germans finished
good… But U could really use the decals for the german cross… I have a picture of mine… let me see if I can find it :)
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Like this. With the decal on the wing.
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Can somebody please do a thread where they show HOW TO PAINT AA PIECES?
I want to learn how to do it properly. Post pictures of the tools and types of brushes and technique ( step by step)
I will make it a sticky for everyone to benefit. It is time to do this right now.
Make sure whoever makes this thread that they tell people where to buy the paints and brushes.
Include dry-brushing and how to do it.
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I can do a tutorial on how I am doing it… Although, maybe it isn´t the “right” way to do it… I can not measure myself with clay and virtua…
But better than nothing, and always a start :)
Maybe it will be up this weekend due to heavy work in the week :)
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I did not know they are making more miniatures.
i have been buying some sherman and german tanks for variety from another figure company since the scales are identicle. But what i want is a wildcat ot corsair for the pacific. wicked.I dont know what the answer is to your cornundrum. I would say yes paint your new ones but if you got the time paint just the ships of those you havent replaced yet maybe a few tanks of each unreplaced side
Hey Chagadiel, I bought some P-51s, P-40s, and Corsairs from a place on the internet (I think it was from Brookhurst Hobbies). They are pewter, but I was using them for painting anyways. You might want to consider those if you want wildcats or corsairs:
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cheers they are about are perfect.
They must be tumbling dice 1/600 they dont look too different in scale i think i worked out the the AA me-109 was roughly 1/420 so i ruled out trumpeters 1/700 scale models.
I love playing the americans in the pacific arena and it always bothers me that they went for that plane. i always thought the mustang was the iconic american fighterme thinks i will have to get some wildcats and corsairs
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chrillenilsson couldnt agree with you more.i will have to get some decals my crosses and stars are appalling
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Gaa! Don’t know how I missed seeing this thread! These. Are. Awesome. Both artists.
chrillenilsson - Really, really like the naval pieces in particular (especially those Jap carriers with the bushido symbols/words!!! I know doing those aren’t easy :-o). The choices for your colors are top notch as well, cool camo. Nice touch with the Navy on the U.S. BB’s. :mrgreen:
Chag - like your ideas for emphasizing the different platforms on the ships… And those scorch marks - excellent idea. Agree with ya about not using straight silver paint - tried doing that with some zeros once, too shiny. Nose art on your B-17s!! :-o :-D
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If you want me to be honest i think that the painting looks very amateur.
Some things that could improve your work:
- Use a base black spray coat from warhammer.
- put more water on ink so that is not to thick.
- use decalcs for roundels, don´t paint roundels cause that gives a really low quality look.
nope i am not a profesional i just like painting. i just thought i would share the way i am doing mine which is a bit differrent i also like to see other peaples to compare interpretations of colour style and ideas which i like and borrow for my own.
i agree with the decals especially the american ones i struggel to do straight lines and stars . a black base coat takes away colour and makes it dull, a white coat is better.ANYways whats the point in it all when last night i was playing europe with my wife and she kept attacking me with backwards faceing t34s :-D
I know, I know, I shouldn’t be bringing up ‘dated’ negative posts but a couple on here struck a nerve.
First off, in my opinion, there are no professionals in painting A&A miniatures - for A LOT of reasons. First and foremost, there is no way to make a profit, let alone a living off of it. Considering how much time it takes - you’d be better off flipping burgers, in fact, McDee’s will probably pay you seven or eight times what you could make per hour, easily (if you want to provide a service at a ‘reasonable’ or ‘affordable’ price to the public). And let me tell you, detailing (not JUST painting) does take a lot of time. I started to clock myself from start to end on each piece, wow. And this excluded all the other costs involved (The paints & brushes - you’d be surprised how quick they go, even on these small pieces. The decals, the protective coating, shipping etc.). This cost factor gets worst if you make a comparative issue out of it… say compared to what you might already make in your full-time job.
Secondly, the painting jobs themselves can only be judged by one’s own aesthetic perception. Sure, a lot of it is based on the historical counterparts - but there were no ‘exact’ camo or color themes. Not to mention the fact that thousands of the units were destroyed so you’ll never know what all of them looked like. I personally go for what I have in my head as ‘memorable’ pictures of the unit… images of old comic books, movies and t.v. shows, visits to museums… If I’m unfamiliar with a unit - I of course peruse the Internet and find what appears to be a style that was most common (providing it doesn’t look too similar to another nation’s unit). But at the end of the day - its whatever you think works - which brings me to…
Thirdly. This ‘historically accurate’ idea… eh eh eh They’re too small of scale to be historically accurate. You can paint a general ‘historical resemblance’, but no way can it be done to ‘historical accuracy’. Go ahead and say otherwise, but you’re fooling yourself. Perhaps this is semantics, but that’s my stance. Panzerpainter and I talked about this, it’s hard for him to even try for historical accuracy on larger scale pieces (though he has and does do it - he’s awesome). Leading to the next area…
Fourth. These are game components, not pieces to just be placed behind glass for viewing. BUT, here is another area that starts to roll into personal choices. If you approached painting the pieces to say… suit all the ‘most common’ style of that particular unit, guess what? You’re going to have a hell of a time telling some of them apart during a game. It leads to arguments, “Wait… I thought that was a German ship? It is gray . I wouldn’t have done the attack if I’d know that!” Yeah, been there. Sure, that’s why there’s insignias, painted or with transfers. And perhaps between turns you should be bothering to study the board and get all of that sorted out… but I think it’s safe to say that some A&A games go a looong time. At whatever hour in the morning (and for those of the legal drinking age imbibing during a game especially), the pieces are not as defined as they once were. And anyone who has played global a couple times will know that this game in particular is now the longest in regard to gameplay out of all the A&A editions. But yet… ya don’t want to necessarily paint the Russians in fireman red uniforms… so it’s a personal choice. At one point does one start making a piece particular to the nation? I’d say, depends on the gaming group. I’ve painted some components for games to close historical resemblance of the most common colors/style - and they turned out fantastic I think, but we’ve spent half the game time trying to determine who was who and what was what.
So wait… this MEGAEINSTEIN person, you out there? Let’s see your work then ‘professional’. I couldn’t find any A&A pieces on here by you… thought we could turn that over-critical eye you put on these wonderful paint jobs on your own. Don’t get me wrong - I firmly believe any paint on an A&A mini adds to the game. People forget that you’re looking down at a board with tons of these pieces… it looks cool. Not many realize that posted pics of painted minis don’t do them justice, in fact, they are usually an injustice. You see things that you normally wouldn’t notice in the game at all, oftentimes things the naked eye wouldn’t even realize until it’s frozen in a photo (which can then be enlarged).
So in regard to this statement, “If you want me to be honest i think that the painting looks very amateur.” … I would A. completely dismiss the negative connotation due to lack of credibility, and the person is simply running off the head. B. take this as a compliment, as there are no “professionals” in this niche. There is no panel of judges, no certifications. The origins of the word (and its use as a noun) ‘amateur’, is someone who does something for the love of it, regardless of fame or fortune. You, like many here, have a love for the game and wish to enhance it to a point where you’ll spend some time detailing the components. In my opinion, all true artists are ‘amateurs’. The moment an ‘artist’ becomes a ‘professional’, is the same moment they lose the title… they’re now in marketing/advertising (which admittedly, is probably more profitable :| ). Hence the term, ‘starving artist’.
My apologies for the length of this… it takes someone who has painted a whole set to empathize perhaps. It can be mind numbing if one isn’t an amateur.
This has prompted me to start posting a detailed account of how I go about painting A&A miniatures… in hopes of having the pleasure of seeing many more pics of other people’s work. I like the idea of feeding off each other’s completed pieces rather than there being set standards. I’ll be using FMG’s.
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I haven’t started painting my A & A pieces yet, but this post has made me very tempted. I have been painting 25 mm historical miniatures, one trick that I would like to pass on is the use of home made decal sheets. I found this to be much easier for doing Greek hoplite shields and Imperial Rome legionary shields instead of trying to paint a tiny straight line with my old eyes and shaky fingers. The details of the process are below:
1. Use GIMP or other suitable image manipulation program to make your master image file
2. Surf the internet for appropriate artwork to use as a base, then change it fit the file size. WW2 aircraft insignia should be easy to find and then stack up on the image file, you’ll like get 200 or so into the image file.
3. I used the water transfer sheets from Testors but really didn’t care for the decal software that they included. GIMP was much better. The water slide sheets and sealant spray worked great. You want to get the white background sheets though, not the clear.
4. Using your inkjet printer, print the decals on the half page sheets. I usually did two or three test prints before doing the transfer decal sheet, I usually wanted to tweak some of image positions.
5. I went with three light coats of sealant on the decal sheet and let the coats dry several hours between coats.
6. All that work paid off when I got to applying the decal to the historical figs, what was an hour or two painting each shield was now a minute or two each. For painting aircraft insignia versus using decals, you’ll probably be much happier with the straight lines and time savings.Good luck with painting more game pieces.
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I am 100% in agreement with you Viracocha. strange this thread came up again i havent been on here for 6 months while the baby has been my project. now we have a semblence of life again i have started painting again only to find i cant post pics any more.
The nose art is not really nessasery you cant even see them. But i look faward to doing the detail bits, its the fun part.
Before i do a new peice i look at other peaples work to see their interpritation. articles and pictures of the real vehicle and model sites to see what colours are used by them and then idecide what i like and what i feel will work.Your absalutly right about making desicions about authenticity and not haveing arguments about the fact they all look the same. A good example is i have brought some 1/285 micro armour for the germans panzer v’s, tigers and some elephunts all as tanks works fine. I was going to get hummels for artillary extras but decided just becuase i know what they are the other players will not and wouldbe most displeased if they realized that a country they didnt attack was becuase they thought they were tanks not arty.
any way here is the way to some germans i have done
i185.photobucket.com/albums/x282/chagadiel/axis and allies new
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