L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V


  • You SBR:ed my ab with a tac, right? It came from z112. Then it couldn’t get back to z113, but had to land on a carrier in z115.


  • You may look over your setup, if you want to stack more in z115.


  • The same actually goes for the 4 figs that escorted the sb. How did you manage to land them in z113!?


  • Sorry, missed the 4 figs in London. Those could land in z113 after SBR.


  • An alternative is to skip that SBR, but then the french would meet some resistance with another 3 figs defending Holland. It’s ok to skip that battle as well, if you want.


  • @trulpen

    Shoot. The 4 fighters (and bombers) came from the UK. So, there is no problem getting back to SZ 113. Let me see if I can repair the rest.


  • @artofwar1947

    Let’s skip the SBR on the W-G airfield.

    Refight H-B with 2 French infantry, fighter, and CA
    and 1 German infantry and 3 fighters and see what happens after the first round.


  • @artofwar1947

    Let me check one more thing.


  • @artofwar1947

    Move the UK sub in SZ 108 to SZ 113 to beef up the fleet there and go ahead.


  • @artofwar1947

    Do you want me to run the battle and resubmit the edited map?


  • This is tricky. I usually redo battles if my opponent decides to scramble while I assumed a no scramble. Here I didn’t get the option though and it’s obvious I would scramble against the french attack. Dice have been rolled. No hits at all during the first battle round, but then 3 figs would be rolled before going to round 2 were France got 1 hit with the fig.

    What do you think is fair here? Redo the full battle? Redo it without the shore bombardment? Several different options on how to proceed.


  • I can run the battle and edit the map. Think that’s easiest.


  • @trulpen

    Normally, the whole battle is re-rolled. If not, then the whole point of the attack (killing the German inf in H-B) is extremely unlikely. It’s been a long day; let me think about this.


  • Yes, it’s a special situation. Take your time. When we reach a conclusion we can proceed.



  • L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 18

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 3 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
           Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
           1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
    
                 Germans take Rostov from Russians
    
           2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine
    
           1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus
    
                 Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
    
           1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to 101 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 116 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine
    
           1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Battle in 101 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters
    
               British defend with 1 submarine
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 fighters in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,83 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 submarine in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
                   1 submarine owned by the British lost in 101 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win, taking 101 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for British: 1 submarine
    
           Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               Germans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4,00 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               Germans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
           Battle in Ukraine
    
               Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4,17 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine
    
               Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Stalingrad
    
           1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
    
           3 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
    
           1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod
    
           1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
    
           1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
           3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
    
           1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
    
           1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to 116 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Yugoslavia
    
           1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia
    
           2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Stalingrad
    
           1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia
    
           3 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
    
           2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
    
           2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy
    
           1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Yugoslavia
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Greece
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia
    
           1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
    
           2 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
    
           1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
    
           7 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
    
           1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
    
           1 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
    
           1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
    
           2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
    
           2 aaGuns, 30 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus
    
           1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Northern Belarus
    
           2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland
    
           5 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
    
           1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
    
           10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 artillery and 2 fighters placed in Western Germany
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Stalingrad
    
           3 infantry placed in Russia
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
    
           2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 99 Sea Zone
    
           4 infantry placed in Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -2,00

    British regular : 0,83


  • Assumed no scramble.


  • @trulpen

    Assumed correctly.

    Scramble to defend Rostov?

    Trulpen-vs-AoW-RUS-18-scramble.tsvg


  • No scramble.


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