L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Let’s skip the SBR on the W-G airfield.

Refight H-B with 2 French infantry, fighter, and CA
and 1 German infantry and 3 fighters and see what happens after the first round.

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Let me check one more thing.

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Move the UK sub in SZ 108 to SZ 113 to beef up the fleet there and go ahead.

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Do you want me to run the battle and resubmit the edited map?

[trulpen]

This is tricky. I usually redo battles if my opponent decides to scramble while I assumed a no scramble. Here I didn’t get the option though and it’s obvious I would scramble against the french attack. Dice have been rolled. No hits at all during the first battle round, but then 3 figs would be rolled before going to round 2 were France got 1 hit with the fig.

What do you think is fair here? Redo the full battle? Redo it without the shore bombardment? Several different options on how to proceed.

[trulpen]

I can run the battle and edit the map. Think that’s easiest.

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

Normally, the whole battle is re-rolled. If not, then the whole point of the attack (killing the German inf in H-B) is extremely unlikely. It’s been a long day; let me think about this.

[trulpen]

Yes, it’s a special situation. Take your time. When we reach a conclusion we can proceed.

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

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[trulpen]

L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

Game History

Round: 18

   Research Technology - Germans



   Purchase Units - Germans

       Germans buy 3 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

       Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans



   Combat Move - Germans

       1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine

       1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov

             Germans take Rostov from Russians

       2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine

       1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus

             Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians

       1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 101 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to 101 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to 101 Sea Zone

       1 tactical_bomber moved from 116 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux

       1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux

       3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux

       1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Normandy Bordeaux

       1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Normandy Bordeaux

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine

       1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine



   Combat - Germans

       Battle in 101 Sea Zone

           Germans attack with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters

           British defend with 1 submarine

               Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 fighters in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,83 expected hits

               British roll dice for 1 submarine in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits

               1 submarine owned by the British lost in 101 Sea Zone

           Germans win, taking 101 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for British: 1 submarine

       Battle in Normandy Bordeaux

           Germans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers

           British defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry

               Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4,00 expected hits

               British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux

           Germans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4

           Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

           Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

       Battle in Ukraine

           Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers

           British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry

               Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4,17 expected hits

               British roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine

           Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0

           Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

           Casualties for British: 1 infantry



   Non Combat Move - Germans

       1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Stalingrad

       1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan

       3 infantry moved from Russia to Samara

       1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod

       1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

       1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland

       3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany

       1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France

       1 fighter moved from 116 Sea Zone to Western Germany

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to 116 Sea Zone

       1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Yugoslavia

       1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia

       2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Stalingrad

       1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia

       3 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece

       2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia

       2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy

       1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Yugoslavia

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Greece

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Yugoslavia

       1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland

       1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland

       2 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

       1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium

       7 infantry moved from Western Germany to France

       1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France

       1 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia

       1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania

       2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania

       2 aaGuns, 30 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus

       1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Northern Belarus

       2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland

       5 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

       1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany

       10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland



   Place Units - Germans

       1 artillery and 2 fighters placed in Western Germany

       1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Stalingrad

       3 infantry placed in Russia

       1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France

       2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 99 Sea Zone

       4 infantry placed in Germany



   Turn Complete - Germans

       Germans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs

       Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

       Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -2,00

British regular : 0,83

[trulpen]

Assumed no scramble.

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

Assumed correctly.

Scramble to defend Rostov?

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[trulpen]

No scramble.

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

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[trulpen]

L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

Game History

Round: 18

   Purchase Units - Japanese

       Japanese buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 13 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 



   Combat Move - Japanese

       1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai

             Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese

       4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan

       1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan

       4 armour, 21 artilleries, 46 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Eastern India

       2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone

       2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau

       1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau

       1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Paulau

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Paulau

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Paulau

       1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to Paulau

       2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Timguska

       3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

       1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Paulau



   Combat - Japanese

       Battle in Timguska

           Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 8 infantry

           Russians defend with 5 artilleries and 6 infantry

               Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 8 infantry in Timguska, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 3,83 expected hits

               Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries and 6 infantry in Timguska, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 3,67 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Timguska

               Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 6 infantry in Timguska, round 3 : 4/11 hits, 3,50 expected hits

               Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries and 2 infantry in Timguska, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Timguska

               Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 4 infantry in Timguska, round 4 : 3/9 hits, 3,17 expected hits

               Russians roll dice for 3 artilleries in Timguska, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 3 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Timguska

           Japanese win, taking Timguska from Russians with 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20

           Casualties for Japanese: 6 infantry

           Casualties for Russians: 5 artilleries and 6 infantry

       Battle in Eastern India

           Japanese attack with 4 armour, 21 artilleries, 46 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys

           British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour

               Japanese roll dice for 4 armour, 21 artilleries, 46 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Eastern India, round 2 : 20/75 hits, 21,50 expected hits

               UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Eastern India, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Eastern India

           Japanese captures 9PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital

           Japanese converts factory_major into different units

           Japanese win, taking Eastern India from UK_Pacific with 4 armour, 21 artilleries, 45 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3

           Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

           Casualties for British: 2 infantry

       Battle in 56 Sea Zone

           Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber

           Americans defend with 1 submarine

               Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits

               Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits

               1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 56 Sea Zone

           Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

       Battle in Paulau

           Japanese attack with 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers

           Americans defend with 2 infantry

               Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Paulau, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 5,17 expected hits

               Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Paulau, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Paulau

           Japanese win, taking Paulau from Americans with 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0

           Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

           Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

       Battle in Honan

           Japanese attack with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry

           Chinese defend with 1 infantry

               Japanese roll dice for 4 artilleries and 9 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 3/13 hits, 3,50 expected hits

               Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan

           Japanese win, taking Honan from Chinese with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3

           Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

       triggerUKPacificDestroyPUsJapanese: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to UK_Pacific



   Non Combat Move - Japanese

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Changing ownership of Ceylon from UK_Pacific to Japanese

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       2 bombers moved from Timguska to Urals

       1 aaGun moved from Burma to Eastern India

       2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma

       1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Burma

       1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone

       1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 40 Sea Zone to Eastern India

       1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone

       1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone

       3 artilleries moved from French Indo China to Yunnan

       1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       2 carriers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 56 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 40 Sea Zone

       2 carriers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       2 submarines moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Davao

       EDIT: 1 artillery and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao

       2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao

       EDIT: 1 artillery and 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan

       1 infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan

       1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi

       1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei

       1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan

       1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan

       1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi

       1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol

       2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe

       1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

       1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi

       1 marine moved from 40 Sea Zone to Ceylon



   Place Units - Japanese

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 40 Sea Zone: 1 fighter

       EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Davao: 1 fighter

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       1 carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone

       1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone

       2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Japan

       3 infantry placed in Shantung

       3 infantry placed in Kwangtung

       3 infantry placed in French Indo China



   Turn Complete - Japanese

       Japanese collect 74 PUs; end with 83 PUs

       Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 86 PUs

       Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs

       Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 96 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,33

Americans regular : 1,17

Japanese regular : -0,67

UK_Pacific regular : 0,33

Russians regular : -1,00

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

lTrulpen-vs-AoW-UK-18.tsvg

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

Let me re-think the UK NCM.

[trulpen]

@artofwar1947 said in L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

@trulpen

Let me re-think the UK NCM.

Ok

[ArtofWar1947]

@trulpen

Also need to reconsider US invasion of Norway. In a serious oversight that comes from playing too quickly, I overlooked that the 3 German F and 3 Tacs in Yugo that can land on the CVs in SZ 116.

The US would like instead invade H-B with an inf, art, 6 fighters and 1 tac. If you’ll permit, scramble from W-G and/or France?

[trulpen]

Yes, you can change the move. Won’t scramble.

Yugo is a great place for an ab.