L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3

[axis-dominion]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

I find it strange. When you pursue a break-through, you seem to achieve it rather easily.

When I try I just find a brick wall and have to resign the effort.

I was pretty confident to be able to break down Cairo this turn, but when at the moment it just seemed undoable.

the genius of experience at play ;)

[trulpen]

@axis-dominion said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

the genius of experience at play ;)

Or simply genius?

Btw, you never gave me a lesson of hints and tricks after our first game. :crying_cat_face:

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 17

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 17

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 8 artilleries and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
        3 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Smolensk
        4 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greater Southern Germany
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        7 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
            Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Volgograd, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Archangel
            Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 19 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 19 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 5/23 hits, 5,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
            Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 4 artilleries and 19 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Smolensk
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk
            Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans attack with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 6/16 hits, 8,17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans win, taking Greater Southern Germany from Americans with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Greater Southern Germany to 95 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        5 armour moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        EDIT: 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 marines moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Germany
        3 armour and 12 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Archangel
        1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        8 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        6 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greater Southern Germany to Southern Italy
        4 fighters moved from Greater Southern Germany to Germany
        2 bombers moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Archangel

    Place Units - Germans
        8 artilleries and 2 fighters placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 58 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -8,83
Americans : -0,67
Russians : -0,67

Savegame

[trulpen]

Again this multiple minus.

I think I was lucky with dice in the beginning, but not anymore.

[trulpen]

Might change the air setup around Rome.

[trulpen]

Doesn’t affect Russia, so you go ahed with them reds.

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 17

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 17

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 8 artilleries and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
        3 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Smolensk
        4 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greater Southern Germany
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        7 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
            Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Volgograd, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Archangel
            Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 19 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 19 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 5/23 hits, 5,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
            Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 4 artilleries and 19 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Smolensk
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk
            Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans attack with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 6/16 hits, 8,17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Greater Southern Germany
            Germans win, taking Greater Southern Germany from Americans with 9 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Greater Southern Germany to 95 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        5 armour moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        EDIT: 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 marines moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Germany
        3 armour and 12 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Archangel
        1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        8 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        6 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greater Southern Germany to Southern Italy
        4 fighters moved from Greater Southern Germany to Germany
        2 bombers moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Archangel

    Place Units - Germans
        8 artilleries and 2 fighters placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 95 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 95 Sea Zone: 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -8,83
Americans : -0,67
Russians : -0,67

Savegame

[trulpen]

2 tac to the sea and 2 fig to the glorious city of Rome. Reaction to SBR, which you seem to just love.

[trulpen]

So what will you do now when you almost have no targets to bomb? :laughing:

[trulpen]

So sad! Europe is in ruins!

[trulpen]

Wait!

I saw something.

[trulpen]

No, sorry, I saw ghosts.

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 17

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 17

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
              Russians take Rostov from Germans
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
              Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Ukraine
              Russians take Ukraine from Germans
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Volgograd
        6 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        3 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
        17 artilleries moved from Tambov to Volgograd
        20 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
        3 fighters moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Volgograd
            Russians attack with 3 armour, 18 artilleries, 21 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 18 artilleries, 21 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 14/53 hits, 15.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
            Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 3 armour, 18 artilleries, 21 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Smolensk
            Russians attack with 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
            Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia
        31 infantry moved from Tambov to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
        2 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
        1 aaGun moved from Kazakhstan to Samara

    Place Units - Russians
        1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
Russians : -1.00

Savegame

[trulpen]

No, wait, I think I had to leave more inf in Jordan. Think you had a can-opening with the French, right?

[trulpen]

So logically 1 inf isn’t enough defense against 1 inf + 1 fig. I’ll just correct that, because my edit of I during G wouldn’t be fair.

[trulpen]

Think you had like 6 aussie figs there as well.

Think the simplest solution is that I cancel that italian edit and just put the german panzar where they are suitable, protecting NW Persia and Jordan.

[trulpen]

Think I have to take a break. Was counting on US being able to attack NW Persia with 7 fig and 7 sb. The ones from WG won’t reach though.

[axis-dominion]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

Think I have to take a break. Was counting on US being able to attack NW Persia with 7 fig and 7 sb. The ones from WG won’t reach though.

yes, take a break :)

tbh I’m not sure what you’re doing or talking about anymore… you are going MAD my friend!

[trulpen]

@axis-dominion said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

Think I have to take a break. Was counting on US being able to attack NW Persia with 7 fig and 7 sb. The ones from WG won’t reach though.

yes, take a break :)

tbh I’m not sure what you’re doing or talking about anymore… you are going MAD my friend!

YoU make me CrAzY!

;)

[axis-dominion]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

@axis-dominion said in L20 #2 trulpen (X+6) vs Axis-Dominion (A) BM3:

the genius of experience at play ;)

Or simply genius?

Btw, you never gave me a lesson of hints and tricks after our first game. :crying_cat_face:

so we’ll start with a few points in this game:

1. too many factories! G doesn’t need that many facs on Russian soil, as it already should own 3 of the Russian ones, plus output fast units from Berlin. G benefits greatly from having lots of fast units, particularly mechs. J doesn’t need so many facs either. 2 to 3 should be enough. Later on those same facs can be such a liability, as you can see now, as they are easy juicy bombing targets for the allies.
2. too many tanks! G benefits more from having a greater number of mechs. tanks are expensive, but the ratio of mechs to tanks should be much higher.
3. Italy should have been playing a bigger role in helping to defend the western front, so as to free the germans up to do more offensive work in the east. your push to grab the Middle East took away from this defensive role for the Italians, when the germans could’ve easily overtaken the Middle East and then placed a much bigger pressure on egypt.
4. where are your can openers on the eastern front??? that’s a HUGE factor in a successful eastern operation, as it really helps to keep the Russians subdued.
5. Probably too much navy for the euro axis… this one is debatable I suppose, as I too like to buy navy, but it can backfire in a big way if you’re not carefully planning it out for the long term, as what happened so far in this game. Just be extra judicious about your naval spending! :)
6. stop rushing your turns and especially, playing so late when you’re tired, as you’re making loads of mistakes. as I said last time we played, you’re definitely a sharp player, i can see a lot bigger potential in you, but you can’t be making so many mistakes. slow down and play more carefully, give more thought to your turns.

That’s good enough for now :)