Yes, our embassy is not in Jerusalem right now because we were the first ones to build an Embassy in Israel after its creation and, at that time, it was believed that Jerusalem would not be their capitol.
But it has been their capitol for over 50 years. Perhaps it is time for us to move to their capitol like every other good little nation? Do we keep the Israeli Embassy in New York? Sure, you can get from New York to Washington DC in a few hours, but it’s not conducive to maintaining good relations and expedient communications. If we’re going to do everything over the phone, I submit that President Bush has a cell phone, he can do so just fine without wasting time and money on ambassadors who are 50 miles away from where they are supposed to be stationed.
As for Obama, he is cowering though. He ran away from reporter questions and scurried aboard his plane just the other day. He’s refused face to face interviews, instead asking for all questions to be submitted to his office where he can answer them. (or if the answer turns out to be bad, claim it was written by a staffer who was fired or just misunderstood the senator.)
That’s cower dace. He’s running for President of the United States of America, not president of the Parent Teacher Association.
@Cmdr:
Yes, our embassy is not in Jerusalem right now because we were the first ones to build an Embassy in Israel after its creation and, at that time, it was believed that Jerusalem would not be their capitol.
But it has been their capitol for over 50 years. Perhaps it is time for us to move to their capitol like every other good little nation? Do we keep the Israeli Embassy in New York? Sure, you can get from New York to Washington DC in a few hours, but it’s not conducive to maintaining good relations and expedient communications. If we’re going to do everything over the phone, I submit that President Bush has a cell phone, he can do so just fine without wasting time and money on ambassadors who are 50 miles away from where they are supposed to be stationed.
Yeah, its about time we move it into Jerusalem.
As for Obama, he is cowering though. He ran away from reporter questions and scurried aboard his plane just the other day. He’s refused face to face interviews, instead asking for all questions to be submitted to his office where he can answer them. (or if the answer turns out to be bad, claim it was written by a staffer who was fired or just misunderstood the senator.)
That’s cower dace. He’s running for President of the United States of America, not president of the Parent Teacher Association.
Okay well yes that is dodgy.
Look, I’ll carry Barry’s water for him, but he’s gunna have to help. :P Seriously.
As for Hillary, I hope she finds her way into a retirement home where she can have nurses look after her all day long, and I hope those nurses are not forced to work inside a government system so they can provide her the adequate care she so desperately needs.
As for John, honestly, I don’t wish the man ill. I just want him to pick a real conservative as a running mate, then retire after 25 months of service so we can have a real conservative for up to 10 years without a break. It’s only been 16 years since we had a real conservative in the office, and he was kinda a washed down version at that. (20 years if you look back to a real strong conservative.)
Then, maybe GW Bush is a commie? :lol: Of course, you may want one even more conservative than Bush but still he is very conservative.
Then, maybe GW Bush is a commie? :lol: Of course, you may want one even more conservative than Bush but still he is very conservative.
I’ll agree he is very “conservative” when it comes to foreign policy.
I’ll disagree vehemently that he is at all conservative domestically or fiscally.
Just because you believe in God does not make you a conservative. Just like disbelief in God prevents you from being conservative.
So let’s see what he’s supported:
Increased Federal Spending on Domestic programs resulting in higher deficit spending - Liberal
Pro Amnesty Programs - Liberal
No Progress on Right to Life - Liberal
Anti-Law Enforcement (put border control agents in general population for doing their job) - Liberal
Funding Stem-Cell Research - Liberal
Funding Wind-Farms and Opening the Doors to Carbon Taxes - Liberal
Honestly, other then prosecuting the war on terror, what, exactly, has the current President done that’s “conservative”? Okay, the tax cuts in 2001 which was almost a decade ago. But since then!?!
obama has to get a clue sometime here.
after saying after he’d withdraw from iraq, he’d go back in to attack al-qaeda(even though al-qaeda is already there :roll:)
it gets worse……
now he says that Bush is the reason for iran hating america.
did he just simply forget the “deaths to america” from 1979 and before. i guess those were bush’s fault to.
the left has become so absurd that blaming anything and everything on bush is shown gratitude by lefties, especially when they know its not true.
Iranians in power have hated us since we helped Iraq stop their invasion. That’s Reagan’s fault, not Bush’s fault.
Anyway, Obama’s got a lot of problems. People are starting to call on him to describe just HOW he plans to bring change to government, not just take him on face value.
My only hope is that Barry and Hilly don’t join forces in September after the DNC.
@JWW:
Look at who’s doing it. It’s obvious it’s a low blow
If you don’t realize that the far right or far left aren’t going to do things such as this you are living in Neverland. Your expectations are whacked.
I expect it from FOX. Doesn’t make it tactful, though. I’m just pointing it out.
They aren’t doing ANY painting. They are accurately stating his middle name and reminding everyone that he has middle eastern lineage. There is nothing false, wrong or accusatory about this. It is what it is. Now if you are upset that this impact’s some peoples feelings about the candidate then that is another issue.
Yes they are, because you’ve bought right into it. How does he have ANY middle eastern “heritage?”
His mom is American, his dad is Kenyan, and he was born in Hawaii. He’s clearly an American but you guys are more hung up on his middle name. That’s a terrible skew if I’ve ever seen one. I’m just asking why other candidates middle names aren’t mentioned? That makes the reason clear. And yes, I pointed out in my FIRST POST that is to elicit a reaction of most people who don’t even know any better.
if there were any possibility of political gain by either the right or left they certainly would. To believe otherwise is simply naive.
Like I pointed out, you never hear Slick willie’s middle name because it has a positive connotation.
Nope, it’s simply politics
Pathetic, at that.
And the unfortunate thing is it might actually effect people but that is the America we live in today. Reality bites, huh brother?
So instead of asking for change, some credibility, and a little bit of critical thinking, you’d rather just roll over and take it? Now I see why this country is going in the toilet.
Maybe I should care when I see so much ignorance on these threads. It’s like you guys are TRYING to be stupid and obtuse.
Yes they are, because you’ve bought right into it. How does he have ANY middle eastern “heritage?”
I meant to write Islamic not middle eastern.
I’m just asking why other candidates middle names aren’t mentioned?
Because it will not have the same impact as the right saying “Hussein” It’s simple actually and probably effective.
Like I pointed out, you never hear Slick willie’s middle name because it has a positive connotation.
So now I’m confused. If you understand it why are you getting all worked up?
So instead of asking for change, some credibility, and a little bit of critical thinking, you’d rather just roll over and take it? Now I see why this country is going in the toilet. Maybe I should care when I see so much ignorance on these threads. It’s like you guys are TRYING to be stupid and obtuse.
Dude, if you are going to get worked up over something this minuscule you will have quite the hard long slog! There are perhaps, a trillion more important political, cultural, educational etc……issues to work towards positive change. This is simply a 3rd grade playground issue where the big stupid bully is calling a smaller kid names. The majority of the playground children understands who the arse is in this situation.
I’d get more upset about candidate’s, their surrogates, campaign managers, supporters etc. outright lying to the public versus the above group simply using a persons given name in a few speeches etc…
obama has to get a clue sometime here.
after saying after he’d withdraw from iraq, he’d go back in to attack al-qaeda(even though al-qaeda is already there :roll:)
Agreed. This comment on his position is quite absurd. It is obvious he is grasping at straws. And the fact is the USA will be in Iraq for a LONG time. No different than S.Korea, Germany, Japan, Cuba, Balkans, Philippines (did we get out of there yet? I think so)
Hopefully our presence in Iraq will contribute to this country’s future success and prosperity.
unless i’m mistaken, wasn’t it Clinton that made the biggest stinks over his haratage and background?
Clintons dug up the dirt on his schooling in what is now an extreamist school but may or may not have been at the time of his study there when much younger.
i think the Clintons also brought up the middle name thing first.
i’m not saying it was or is right, although the school is a consern because we don’t know if it was readical at the time, it needs some seriouse looking into IMO. any way right and left have used the name, accusing just the right of it is not right.
Dude, if you are going to get worked up over something this minuscule you will have quite the hard long slog! There are perhaps, a trillion more important political, cultural, educational etc……issues to work towards positive change. This is simply a 3rd grade playground issue where the big stupid bully is calling a smaller kid names. The majority of the playground children understands who the arse is in this situation
hes not upset about the names, hes upset about shallow ideas based off of something like name or skin color. Most Americans need to grow up and not make assumptions about a persons ability to lead the country based off of their name and skin color. The issue of Obama’s middle name isnt as one dimensional and stupid as it seems, it ties into the far larger issue of racism.
I actually agree with him: if somebody is going to base their opinion of Obama off of his middle name, then that person is a prejudiced idiot that should stay home on election day.
@JWW:
obama has to get a clue sometime here.
after saying after he’d withdraw from iraq, he’d go back in to attack al-qaeda(even though al-qaeda is already there :roll:)
Agreed. This comment on his position is quite absurd. It is obvious he is grasping at straws. And the fact is the USA will be in Iraq for a LONG time. No different than S.Korea, Germany, Japan, Cuba, Balkans, Philippines (did we get out of there yet? I think so)
Hopefully our presence in Iraq will contribute to this country’s future success and prosperity.
Yeah, of course your forgetting the fact that Al Queida is also in Pakistan, Lybia, Iran, Syria, and Most likely in Saudi Arabia… And some of the best terrorist recruiting grounds are in Indonesia? Did I mention that I am going to get drafted? Or how much it is going to cost us just to prop up other governments to fight home grown terrorism?
Personally I think none of the major candidates really know what this conflict requires…
GG
or people should stay home if they are bassing there vote on color, age, or gender as well. but that would hurt the demacratic party a lot. i hear more “I am going to vote for O/H because they are black/woman” then i hear “I won’t vote for them because of black/woman” although i do hear it and that is sad.
i don’t care for eather but it’s not because of race or gender. it’s polacy and if we could atleast get people to vote on that alone the whole system would be better.
@Cmdr:
Iranians in power have hated us since we helped Iraq stop their invasion. That’s Reagan’s fault, not Bush’s fault.
There was the Shah before that. weve been meddling in the MIddle East long before Reagan.
@JWW:
obama has to get a clue sometime here.
after saying after he’d withdraw from iraq, he’d go back in to attack al-qaeda(even though al-qaeda is already there :roll:)
Agreed. This comment on his position is quite absurd. It is obvious he is grasping at straws. And the fact is the USA will be in Iraq for a LONG time. No different than S.Korea, Germany, Japan, Cuba, Balkans, Philippines (did we get out of there yet? I think so)
Hopefully our presence in Iraq will contribute to this country’s future success and prosperity.
It’s naive to compare the bloodless benign deployments overseas with the occupation in Iraq. Iraqis will never be happy with a sizeable American force in their country. some may see the necessity of having our troops there (because the alternative is so much weorse), but there will always be plenty others who will view it as an occupation by the “Great Satan” and an affront to Islam.
Smack, the whole Iraq liberation is another topic, so the last thing I’ll say about it is that the vast majority of Iraqis prefer having us there at the moment - but yes, would like us to leave eventually so that they can have their own government take over, when their government is ready.
Also, Germany, Japan, Korea and Vietnam are not BENIGN deployments! Germany’s taken 60 years to beat into submission to the point they stopped killing our troops with insurgent tactics after World War II. They didn’t just roll over and play dead after the war, you know. Japan did roll over and play dead after the war, but they also have NO MILITARY of their own right now.
Korea’s still considered a war zone, after 50+ years. Iraq’s a war zone, but it’s only been 5 years. Cuba’s considered a war zone after what, like 100 years?
Back on topic now:
If people do not want to vote for someone because they are racist, religionists, sexist, whatever, that’s their Governmentally Granted Right as United States Citizens. There’s nothing you can do about it.
However, to gag people and slander them just for disseminating the facts about your name, or poking fun at you because your ears are a little larger then normal, or no one has ever seen you in a skirt, or whatever, is patently unAmerican as it is an abridgment of your freedom of speech and your freedom of the press. (Notice, it’s not freedom of the news media, it’s freedom of the press.)
And yes, Obama DOES have an Islamic heritage. He may be a christian, he may be a lip-service christian, he may be a muslim, he may be an atheist, it doesn’t really matter in regards to what his HERITAGE is. His father was a Muslim. He was raised with Islamic faith present and active in his home. Kenyan, American, Antartican, Space Alien - I don’t care. But let’s not conceal the truth to sugar coat a candidate. Better to have an informed public then a public who’s been lied too. And yes, concealing information IS lieing, it’s called a lie of omission.
And yes, a candidate’s heritage IS important when deciding who to vote for. So is the candidate’s native tongue, his or her experience, his or her voting records, his or her ability to handle good natured political satyr, etc. If he cannot handle people using his middle name as a candidate, how is he going to handle it when Iranians burn his image in effigy? If he cannot handle people poking fun at his facial features, is he going to repeal the First Amendment to stop us from doing it as a President?
Not saying he WOULD do those things, but you have to wonder.
@Cmdr:
Germany’s taken 60 years to beat into submission to the point they stopped killing our troops with insurgent tactics after World War II. They didn’t just roll over and play dead after the war, you know.
Serously, what the hell are you talking about?
Japan did roll over and play dead after the war, but they also have NO MILITARY of their own right now.
That would be news to the Japense SDF forces who have served in Afghanistan and Iraq with us, and the Jap navy that sunk a N. Korean ship in 2001.
“Japan’s navy is considered the most formidable of these three branches, and among the most sophisticated in the world.”
http://www.cfr.org/publication/10439/
Korea’s still considered a war zone, after 50+ years. Iraq’s a war zone, but it’s only been 5 years. Cuba’s considered a war zone after what, like 100 years?
How many soldiers were killed in Korea and Cuba in the last 10 years?
However, to gag people and slander them just for disseminating the facts about your name, or poking fun at you because your ears are a little larger then normal, or no one has ever seen you in a skirt, or whatever, is patently unAmerican as it is an abridgment of your freedom of speech and your freedom of the press. (Notice, it’s not freedom of the news media, it’s freedom of the press.)
No one is saying they CANT say it. the point is, using barac’s middle name is a clear appeal to bigotry. Theres a reason Mccain apologized. the discourse should be about the issues and not what someon’s name is.
If he cannot handle people poking fun at his facial features, is he going to repeal the First Amendment to stop us from doing it as a President?
presidents can’t repeal amendments.
Senators can repeal them, evidentially, since we have Campaign Finance Reform which directly violates the 1st Amendment. If Senators can, then Presidents can.
And Japan has police forces with military training. They do not have a standing army, which is why they use ours.
How many soldiers died in Korea in the first 10 years? How does that compare to Iraq? Yea, thought so. Please go sit in the corner with the pointy hat now and get back on topic.
No one is saying they CANT say it. the point is, using barac’s middle name is a clear appeal to bigotry.
This pretty much sums up what i have to say.
