Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

that show yesterday was halarious.  really made me think a lot better of huckabee.  and if he honestly gets the nomination and has colbert as his running mate, that’d be sweet.

but it seems that McCain is ahead in the polls in south carolina.  thank God for that.  perhaps he should have colbert be his running mate.  :lol:

oh and ron paul is sunk now for good.  his writings from the early 90’s have come out, and they are racist as hell.  we should have known this b/c lately he had refused to return campaign contributions from groups such as the aryan nation.  he said that would be wrong b/c that would send a signal that one persons views are better than anothers when all views should be equal…. :roll:

well at least hopefully we wont have to see and hear so much damn ron paul stuff…

I live in Chicago, I feel blessed if they even mention what Republican is leading, let alone show any of them speaking! :P

Anyway, I’m kinda hoping McCain doesn’t get the nomination.  I don’t think his coat tails are long enough to get even one Republican to upset an incumbent democrat in the house/senate this year.  We need someone charismatic and energetic.

Personally, I don’t want the white house.  I want the house/senate back where we can stop democratic legislation before it’s ever written (since the president cannot write the laws, the budget or anything.  That’s all legislative branch, not executive.)

@balungaloaf:

oh and ron paul is sunk now for good.  his writings from the early 90’s have come out, and they are racist as hell.  we should have known this b/c lately he had refused to return campaign contributions from groups such as the aryan nation.  he said that would be wrong b/c that would send a signal that one persons views are better than anothers when all views should be equal…. :roll:

well at least hopefully we wont have to see and hear so much damn ron paul stuff…

lol, in defense of my candidate (this is not a political attack, and not a flame, so I don’t know how it would be against the “tone” law), and for info sake: he’s doing another big fund raiser on Martin Luther King Jr’s Birthday, his self confessed hero along with Mahatma Ghandi. I would find it hard to believe that he would be racist if he openly said that, and denied ever having even read what someone else wrote in his name. Although I would have thought it more prudent if he had kept track of who had been writing for him, but it is a mistake that he is taking moral responsibility for… And he didn’t say all people’s views are equal, he said people are entitled to their opinions whether you can agree or not with them. You have to actually listen to his rebuttal’s to understand why he does what he does…

Mind you I don’t think he has a very good chance of winning… He would need to show more forceful leadership in order to win “mental” instead of “intellectual” votes…

GG

@balungaloaf:

oh and ron paul is sunk now for good.  his writings from the early 90’s have come out, and they are racist as hell.  we should have known this b/c lately he had refused to return campaign contributions from groups such as the aryan nation.  he said that would be wrong b/c that would send a signal that one persons views are better than anothers when all views should be equal…. :roll:

Well, in that case, we may as well can Trent Lott as well.

Newt for Dictator of the UN!!!

i thought trent lott stepped down years ago.

and second, why dont democrats get rid of bryd…… he’s the oldest democrat in congress and has used the n word a ton…and he was a GRANDDRAGON of the KKK…yeah, who else knew that…the leading democrat in congress ran the KKK…the media doesnt like people to know that.

anyhoo, who watched the colbert report a couple of days ago with huckabee…that guy was funny!  colbert- “john McCain just said he’d hunt osama to the gates of hell, what i ask you sir is will you follow osama into hell itself?”  huck- “and beyond, i’ll charge into hell with a plastic squirtgun if i need to”  :lol:

and jen…cmon now  McCain is energetic and has a ton of charisma.  only damn rush limbaugh and hannity really dispise McCain, to bad they have millions of listeners.  but alas i usually agree with them on most things.  McCain has been running his campaing on lint and pennies in his pocket starting last summer.  give him some credit for that, he had the least amount of money out of all the runners of both parties.  at least it shows that the election is not for sale.

viacom took the video off of youtube.  probably b/c it would of helped huckabee too much b/c its so freakin halarious.  viacom is not a friend of republicans.  :x

I don’t know where Rush and Sean stand on McCain.  I just know he’s already lost a bid for the Presidential nomination once and if you look at the bill’s he’s co-authored and his voting record, he’s NOT conservative enough to actually win the game.

@balungaloaf:

and second, why dont democrats get rid of bryd…… he’s the oldest democrat in congress and has used the n word a ton…and he was a GRANDDRAGON of the KKK…yeah, who else knew that…the leading democrat in congress ran the KKK…the media doesnt like people to know that.

Many people DO know that, and yeah, I don’t have a clue of why he is still around. It’s baffling being as most minorities (blacks in particular) vote democrat.

McCain is energetic and has a ton of charisma.  only damn rush limbaugh and hannity really dispise McCain, to bad they have millions of listeners.  but alas i usually agree with them on most things.  McCain has been running his campaing on lint and pennies in his pocket starting last summer.  give him some credit for that, he had the least amount of money out of all the runners of both parties.  at least it shows that the election is not for sale.

I like McCain myself. Not for his stances but for his character. If he runs and Hillary is his opponent… it may be my first time to vote Republican ever.

And think of it this way, bung. Democrats think Rush is an arrogant pill poppin’ douche-bag. Him not liking McCain could in the end help McCain.

I agree, Stuka, McCain could swing a lot of votes away from the democrats.  However, I think he’ll keep more republicans home then he swings away from the democrats.

his voting record is good.  whats not agreeable with putting the guard on the border and making it secure first.  i agree with him, we cant have a huge campaign to knock down peoples doors to drag away illegals.  those who are caught with our system as is, fine send them back, i’m all for it.  its unamerican to kick in peoples doors while they are eating dinner to drag off their parents.  and it might hurt the economy.

second, he’s been a fighter pilot and a captain of a naval ship.  and his strong position for more troops when it was very unpopular in 2004-06 shows he knows his stuff.  he’d be the best for foreign policy and for defense bar none.

at home the only thing i dont like is his vote for the campaign finance law.  but i really dont know much about it.  anyone know and care to elighten me?  other than that, what has he voted for that really gets conservatives mad at him.  is there anything at all?

That’s his speaking record, Balung.  His voting record are two amnesty bills, votes against tax reductions, votes against defining marriage as man+woman, votes against limiting abortions to those only needed to save the life of mother or in the case of rape or incest, etc.

I’m not saying I agree with all of those initiatives, or disagree with all of those initiatives.  Just pointing out that his voting record is not exactly conservative.

he is for securing the border right now.  and he’s wise for amnesty, how i our right minds can we get rid of all illegals, it would be barbaric for one thing, and it would be very bad for the economy.  maybe he doesnt want to hurt america.

he was against tax cuts for the filthy rich.  i wouldnt mind an extra 1-2% on them.  they do already pay most however which sucks, but thats what he voted against, he just didnt want to make the already filthy rich even more rich.  why do they need more money in tax breaks?

he voted against man and woman marriage b/c that would also discredit civil unions, which he and i are for.  so its not like he’s pro gay marriage, he just wants them to be able to have civil unions. (basically marriage by judge).

for the abortions, if the child is shown to have no brain in it, or have half a heart and would die anyways immediately, i would let the woman choose.  i am against her choosing for rape however b/c i dont see it as the childs fault.  incest i dont see it as the childs fault either, but its gross.  i am for abortions to save the life of the mother, no one can give her a death sentence, but even if its 60-40 in favor that she might die or have medical problems i would still want her and would like it if she toughed it out with courage for her child, but i wouldnt make her.

so i think McCain if he did vote that way on abortions only did it b/c it said nothing about grossly disfigured(so bad the kid will die) or for kids who are severly handicapped in some way.  and i’m talking super duper handicapped.  no passes for murdering kids with downs syndrome, those kids are great.

@balungaloaf:

he is for securing the border right now.  and he’s wise for amnesty, how i our right minds can we get rid of all illegals, it would be barbaric for one thing, and it would be very bad for the economy.  maybe he doesnt want to hurt america.

he was against tax cuts for the filthy rich.  i wouldnt mind an extra 1-2% on them.  they do already pay most however which sucks, but thats what he voted against, he just didnt want to make the already filthy rich even more rich.  why do they need more money in tax breaks?

he voted against man and woman marriage b/c that would also discredit civil unions, which he and i are for.  so its not like he’s pro gay marriage, he just wants them to be able to have civil unions. (basically marriage by judge).

for the abortions, if the child is shown to have no brain in it, or have half a heart and would die anyways immediately, i would let the woman choose.  i am against her choosing for rape however b/c i dont see it as the childs fault.  incest i dont see it as the childs fault either, but its gross.  i am for abortions to save the life of the mother, no one can give her a death sentence, but even if its 60-40 in favor that she might die or have medical problems i would still want her and would like it if she toughed it out with courage for her child, but i wouldnt make her.

so i think McCain if he did vote that way on abortions only did it b/c it said nothing about grossly disfigured(so bad the kid will die) or for kids who are severly handicapped in some way.  and i’m talking super duper handicapped.  no passes for murdering kids with downs syndrome, those kids are great.

SLAM, THUD, CRASH…hear moaning and a sigh…

That was me, falling out of my chair when I read this post. Can’t believe that I agree with some things POLITICAL…errr, I mean current events, that I can agree with B-loaf on. Damn I need to buy a new chair.

We need to delete this thread now! Call DJensen at home, on his cell, lock this thread. I’m officially scared. Has the world stopped spinning? Can pigs now fly? I need a drink.

How to get rid of the illegals is pretty easy in my mind.  Go grab some big name companies and arrest their entire Human Resources staff for hiring illegals.  Make a big huge public spectacle out of it.  Make a lesson out of them.  Strip them of all their worldly possessions and imprison them for long periods of time. (You can quietly reduce those sentences later if you want too.)  Once the business world gets wise that law enforcement will be enforcing the laws, they’ll stop hiring illegals.  Once they can’t get jobs, they’ll go home voluntarily or starve.

Sure, there will be some crying on television, some heart breaking reports of cute children who are sick, or hungry, or whatever by the media (because it will sell advertisement, not because they really care.)  But the result will be the same.

Now, if McCain supports THAT, and stops the idea of some silly wall that won’t stop anything, I’ll pay attention to him.

well i’m still for shipping off the ones who get caught now.  just i dont want to see a huge campaign to go after them, just slowly but surely, and those who are caught have to go.  thats why they are still called illegal.

not only a wall, but the guard there also.  thats basically militarization of the border, and with the way things are right now, i wouldnt mind.  the wall would only stop people if there are guards watching the wall……with guns.

and JWW  :evil:    HAHAHAHA!

it still looks as if McCain will win s.carolina.

What about michigan…did anyone else hear that the daily kos  wants liberals(democrats dont go to the dailykos) to go and vote for romney to keep him in the race.  little sinister plots all over the place.

I actually heard that the democrats are asking people in Michigan not to vote.  Since Hillary is the only one on the ticket in Michigan, if they went to vote, it would be for a republican.  And odds are, they’d vote for McCain since he’s the most liberal republican on the ticket.

Anyway, I don’t want to go on a witch hunt to catch Illegals.  Take down the employers and dry up the resources that the illegals use to survive, and they’ll pay for themselves to leave.  Cheaper, more efficient, and it does not tie up our police, courts or jails.

It is a shame that no candidate has that ultra pragmatic position on illegals…  Draconian enforcement against employers who hire illegals… problem solved, and the illegals go home at their own expense.  Not even Tancredo who is now out of the race embraced that simple, practical and REVENUE GENERATING solution.

I know, and I’m not on the ballot, so you can’t vote for me either. :P