NML 1914: 3 Americans (Centrals) vs 3 Brits (Entente) #2
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TripleA Turn Summary: USA round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4
Game History
Round: 4 Research Technology - USA USA spend 5 on tech rolls USA roll 4,5,5,3 and gets 0 hits Combat Move - USA 2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Florida to Sea Zone 36 Straits of Florida 2 field_guns, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Sea Zone 36 Straits of Florida to Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico 2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico to Guadalahara USA take Guadalahara from Germany 2 infantry moved from Texas to Monterrey 1 fighter moved from Louisiana to Monterrey 1 cavalry moved from Arkansas to Texas 2 infantry moved from Azores to Sea Zone 32 Sargasso Sea 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 27 Mid Atlantic 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 32 Sargasso Sea to Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic 2 infantry moved from Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic to Normandy Purchase Units - USA USA buy 1 Factory, 2 field_guns, 2 gass, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 4 techTokens; Combat - USA Non Combat Move - USA Place Units - USA 1 Factory placed in Azores 1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic 2 gass placed in Texas 2 field_guns placed in San Francisco 2 transports placed in Sea Zone 153 Pacific Ocean Turn Complete - USA USA collect 69 PUs; end with 76 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Territory Summary for USA :
Normandy : 2 infantry California : 1 infantry Charleston : 1 Factory Honolulu : 1 field_gun, 2 infantry and 2 trenchs Luzon : 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Manila : 1 infantry Mindanao : 1 infantry New York : 1 Factory Panama : 1 cavalry and 1 infantry San Francisco : 1 Factory, 2 field_guns, 1 infantry and 1 trench Texas : 1 Factory, 1 cavalry and 2 gass Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Sea Zone 27 Mid Atlantic : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic : 1 submarine Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico : 2 transports Sea Zone 153 Pacific Ocean : 2 transports Azores : 1 flag, 1 Factory Guadalahara : 1 flag, 2 field_guns and 2 infantry Monterrey : 1 fighter and 2 infantryProduction/PUs Summary :
Germany : 126 / 141 France : 68 / 68 Serbia : 7 / 11 Austria : 89 / 89 Italy : 23 / 23 Arabia : 7 / 7 Turkey : 61 / 70 Britain : 94 / 94 Russia : 88 / 96 Communists : 26 / 32 USA : 69 / 76 -
@Wittmann Wow. I totally missed the UK had Merchant Marine. Just realized the whole German navy is sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
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@redrum I suspected as much and, had we been in this game, I would have warned you. I won over the odds too. But then you will have 180 to spend amd 50 angry German ground units in Paris, so can afford to buy a new shiny one.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germany round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4
Game History
Round: 5 Research Technology - Germany Germany spend 0 on tech rolls Germany roll 6,5 and gets 1 hit Germany removing all Technology Tokens after successful research. Germany discover industry Combat Move - Germany 1 cavalry, 16 field_guns, 1 fighter, 3 heavy_guns, 46 infantry and 12 tanks moved from Champagne to Paris 5 cavalrys and 3 tanks moved from Belgium to Paris 3 cavalrys moved from Rhine to Paris 2 cavalrys, 1 fighter, 1 gas and 6 tanks moved from Alsace to Paris 6 gass moved from Wurttemburg to Paris 1 fighter moved from Belgium to Sea Zone 14 Helgoland Bight 1 infantry moved from Picardy to Paris 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Galicia to Odessa 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Warsaw to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from East Prussia to Eastern Poland 4 submarines moved from Sea Zone 20 Labrador Sea to Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic 2 submarines moved from Sea Zone 98 South Atlantic to Sea Zone 50 Mid Atlantic 1 submarine moved from Sea Zone 87 Southern Ocean to Sea Zone 115 Tasman Sea 1 field_gun moved from Easter Island to Sea Zone 111 Pacific Ocean 1 field_gun and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 111 Pacific Ocean to Sea Zone 105 Pacific Ocean 1 battlecruiser moved from Sea Zone 111 Pacific Ocean to Sea Zone 145 Pacific Ocean 1 field_gun, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens moved from Mecklenburg to Holstein Purchase Units - Germany Germany buy 1 Factory, 4 field_guns, 20 infantry, 1 stormtruppen, 6 tanks and 2 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; Combat - Germany Battle in Sea Zone 115 Tasman Sea Germany attack with 1 submarine Britain defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Britain lost in Sea Zone 115 Tasman Sea Germany roll dice for 1 submarine in Sea Zone 115 Tasman Sea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germany win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Britain: 1 transport Battle in Sea Zone 14 Helgoland Bight Germany attack with 1 fighter Britain defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Britain lost in Sea Zone 14 Helgoland Bight Germany win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Britain: 1 transport Battle in Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic Germany attack with 4 submarines USA defend with 1 submarine 1 submarine owned by the USA Submerged Germany roll dice for 4 submarines in Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Battle in Holstein Germany attack with 1 field_gun, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens Britain defend with 2 infantry Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens in Holstein, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Britain roll dice for 2 infantry in Holstein, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany and 2 infantry owned by the Britain lost in Holstein Germany winGermany win with 4 submarines remaining, taking Holstein from Britain with 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 2 stormtruppens remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germany: 1 infantry Casualties for Britain: 2 infantry Battle in Paris Germany attack with 11 cavalrys, 16 field_guns, 2 fighters, 7 gass, 3 heavy_guns, 47 infantry and 21 tanks Britain defend with 2 fighters and 6 infantry; France defend with 1 Factory, 2 cavalrys, 2 field_guns, 2 fighters, 15 heavy_guns, 31 infantry and 9 trenchs Germany roll dice for 7 gass in Paris, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 4.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the France and 2 cavalrys owned by the France lost in Paris 7 gass owned by the Germany lost in Paris Germany roll dice for 11 cavalrys, 16 field_guns, 2 fighters, 3 heavy_guns, 47 infantry and 21 tanks in Paris, round 2 : 35/100 hits, 37.67 expected hits France roll dice for 2 field_guns, 4 fighters, 15 heavy_guns, 34 infantry and 9 trenchs in Paris, round 2 : 19/64 hits, 25.50 expected hits 19 infantry owned by the Germany, 9 trenchs owned by the France and 17 infantry owned by the France lost in Paris Germany roll dice for 11 cavalrys, 16 field_guns, 2 fighters, 3 heavy_guns, 28 infantry and 21 tanks in Paris, round 3 : 37/81 hits, 34.00 expected hits France roll dice for 2 field_guns, 4 fighters, 15 heavy_guns and 17 infantry in Paris, round 3 : 19/38 hits, 18.33 expected hits 14 heavy_guns owned by the France, 19 infantry owned by the Germany, 2 field_guns owned by the France, 2 fighters owned by the Britain, 6 infantry owned by the Britain, 2 fighters owned by the France and 11 infantry owned by the France lost in Paris Germany roll dice for 11 cavalrys, 16 field_guns, 2 fighters, 3 heavy_guns, 9 infantry and 21 tanks in Paris, round 4 : 22/62 hits, 27.67 expected hits France roll dice for 1 heavy_gun in Paris, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 heavy_gun owned by the France lost in Paris Germany captures 68PUs while taking France capital Germany win, taking Paris from France with 11 cavalrys, 16 field_guns, 2 fighters, 3 heavy_guns, 9 infantry and 21 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 123 Casualties for France: 2 cavalrys, 2 field_guns, 2 fighters, 15 heavy_guns, 31 infantry and 9 trenchs Casualties for Germany: 7 gass and 38 infantry Casualties for Britain: 2 fighters and 6 infantry Battle in Odessa Germany attack with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Russia defend with 1 field_gun Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Odessa, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Odessa, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Odessa, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Odessa, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 field_gun owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Odessa Germany win, taking Odessa from Russia with 1 field_gun remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germany: 1 infantry Casualties for Russia: 1 field_gun Battle in Eastern Poland Germany attack with 1 field_gun and 3 infantry Russia defend with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 3 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany and 1 infantry owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Poland Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Eastern Poland Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Eastern Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 field_gun owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Poland Germany win, taking Eastern Poland from Russia with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germany: 2 infantry Casualties for Russia: 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germany 4 stormtruppens moved from Berlin to Brandenburg 6 infantry moved from Bavaria to Wurttemburg 4 field_guns and 3 stormtruppens moved from Sweden to Stockholm 1 fighter moved from Sea Zone 14 Helgoland Bight to Hanover 1 fighter moved from Paris to Belgium 1 fighter moved from Paris to Champagne Place Units - Germany 1 Factory placed in Stockholm 1 field_gun and 1 infantry placed in Warsaw 4 infantry and 2 trenchs placed in Mexico City 3 infantry placed in Dar es Salaam 3 infantry placed in Belgium 6 tanks placed in Bavaria 1 field_gun and 5 infantry placed in Mecklenburg 2 field_guns and 4 infantry placed in Wurttemburg 1 stormtruppen placed in Berlin Activate Technology - Germany Germany activating industry Turn Complete - Germany Germany collect 143 PUs; end with 211 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Britain : 0.33 France : -6.50 Germany : -5.00 Russia : 1.00 -
@Wittmann Yeah, it was a good play. I’m not used to seeing UK get MM that early. I think I got a bit lazy once I realized Paris would definitely fall.
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@redrum bloody Hell! I looked everywhere fir that Tasman Sea Sub. Where the Hell was it? I wanted to ask : I even looked through the history.
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I thought it must have scuttled, like the Graf Spee!
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My French soldiers are refusing to fight on! Germans in Paris! Mon Dieu! C’est la fin de la civilisation telle que nous la connaissons! Nous nous rendons. :clap:
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Just seen a WhatsApp from Leo asking me to do the F turn. I thought we had agreed to surrender when Paris fell. The poor boy cannot stick to any plan ……
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@Private-Panic at least I am a boy!
It would seem that the opening G1 amd the 11% chance of getting Armour on G1 has made our task impossible. Was Austria given extra income for its territories too, as it seems to have way more income than I remember it having. (I thought it too wealthy in the old set up.) I am not sure that such an easy ride should have been scripted. You really have played to the changes and it might have been too much for balance.
I am happy to play again , with the same sides, if that is what people want. Owning Paris with enough units to capture Rome, has sealed your victory, especially as Serbia and Mecca look set to go soon too.
America can’t help, as Mexico means it had to expend half its resources there.
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I know that one game cannot prove the point but having won as both CPs and Entente with the previous set up, it seems that an early G discovery of Armour now ensures a CP victory? :thinking_face:
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@Wittmann I’m fine if you want to concede and start a new one.
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@redrum only because you had no navy. Won’t do that again, will you?
Seems fairer to Adam that way.
Same sides one more time? Please start it and if you get Armour , start it again!
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@Wittmann Ha. Well my 200 PUs say I could have a navy if I want :)
I’d vote to switch sides but fine if you want another go at playing Entente.
Early German tanks definitely make defending Paris difficult but I think still possible. If you replace the tanks with cavalry and some of the inf with artillery, I think Paris still falls in this game.
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@redrum Will talk to my allies re whether to swap sides and get back to you.
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So isn’t that wrong then, if it is so scripted ?
Adam wanted to switch sides too. We can do. I fear we won’t be as devious as you and lose, proving nothing. I would not send all forces at one Front, like you did.
Will see which nation Colin fancies. I have not heard from him in a few days. -
I’m happy to play again, would like to try the Turks again if possible in the next game. Other than that, no country preference.
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@redrum said in NML 1914: 3 Americans (Centrals) vs 3 Brits (Entente) #2:
Early German tanks definitely make defending Paris difficult but I think still possible. If you replace the tanks with cavalry and some of the inf with artillery, I think Paris still falls in this game.
Hi redrum. I have played F a number of times under the previous version and have never lost Paris before, whereas on this occasion I don’t think I could possibly have saved it as G’s odds were so huge. Perhaps I have never faced a really good G opponent. While I have no doubt you understand the game far better than I do, my own small experience says that if G discover armour early on, this version is heavily stacked in the CP’s favour. There are so many other changes to the set up making life harder for the Entente, that armour guarantees victory if G focuses on the capture of Paris.
Have you played F against a G with armour from the off?
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The armor definitely helped Germany, but I feel that the lack of reinforcements from Canada, the US, and England was just as big a factor in the fall of France.
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