Russia Question

@Leatherneckinlv:

Elsass-Lorraine

I’ve been playing AA since 86

after 5 games of first edition we house ruled the game…2010 2nd edition…same thing…house ruled it…2013 we shelved it for HBG Global 39…Global 36 came out…tougher time to find players…I am creating a hybrid game taking the best of all 3 games to mesh it into 1

I just recently started playing AA G 40 so I could play at YGs tournament

AA G 40 is a great game but it is broken…Destroyers and Bombers overpowered…political situations idiotic in my opinion
Most broken are Russia…Italy and the UK Navy…awful representation of them

My games all Military Veterans and historical buffs of WW ll…we changed it up

An example…my Tankograd…Russia may purchase 2 tanks for 4 IPC’s and immediately place them on the board and combat or non combat move them on that turn
Russia has heavy tank…only country with them…Germans SP’s…Italians Berseglieri Infantry and TB DD…US AA destroyers…China Cavalry…Japan Escort carriers…Brits Battle cruisers…2 hits to destroy…Anzac Coast Watchers and special Naval Tac / Torpedo bombers that can convoy and target select ships…French Colonial Infantry that you roll a 1 you place an Infantry into a territory you own…this is my simple one…then I have mega complicated rules

Glad to hear that you understand how house rules work. But they’re called house rules for a reason: They apply uniquely and singularly to your group. That means, when you are playing with other people, such as at events like YG’s tournament, you play by the letter of the original rulebook (or whatever rules are played at that event).

Like I said, you are more than welcome to house rule the game (which you have) and then go talk about your house rules in the House Rules forum.
This forum is for people who play Axis and Allies Global 1940 by the rule book, that’s why there is a separate one for house rules. Let me reiterate: The rules surrounding your situation have been completely and clearly explained by multiple people. The rules are not changing anytime soon either, and definitely not for a fringe issue such as this.

You asked about a rule, we told you about a rule. It’s pointless to deny rules that are clearly written in the rulebook and even nicely brought together and tied up with a bow for you by rules deputies and various others.

Let me end with saying that I mean none of this maliciously. Good luck with your future games of A&A, HBG36/39, or whatever hybrid game you come up with.  :-)

@Elsass-Lorraine:

Like I said, you are more than welcome to house rule the game (which you have) and then go talk about your house rules in the House Rules forum.
This forum is for people who play Axis and Allies Global 1940 by the rule book, that’s why there is a separate one for house rules. Let me reiterate: The rules surrounding your situation have been completely and clearly explained by multiple people. The rules are not changing anytime soon either, and definitely not for a fringe issue such as this.

Ok, who wins the pool on how long it take for me to say that Balanced Mode is also house rules?

:-D

Marsh

@Leatherneckinlv:

SS

Yeah….I know…to many this is a strategy game…to me this is a WW ll game

I even have Merrill’s Marauders and Chindits in my game…lol…and Engineers

No Engineer No factory buy…you can’t build it without engineers

I even have supplies and Fuel rules…my war is both a tactical war and a strategic war…Bombers have been neutered…DD blockers…huh…what’s that?..lol my blockers are called screens…no puny DD is going to stop a fleet…that was one of the first changes we made…we all laughed at that one

Bombers are vital…but they will never be the key instrument to win a tactical battle…glory has gone to the Tac bomber

plus…I play D-12 system

Ha ha. The last half of your message is what I have but rest is going deep.

“No German units in originally Russians controlled territories without DOW”
This should not be a house rule. This is common sense and should be in the rule book.
Yeah yeah yeah it’s not there but neither are sharks with laser beams attached to their heads.

@Leatherneckinlv:

Roger that Kreghund

I am going to let the cat out of the bag now

This thread is 3 fold

before I start this occurred in one of my games at YG’s tournament and General Hand grenade  told us the rule, so I knew the rule

Desert Admiral and I spoke today and wanted clarification and since I had the time I posted this…

Before posting I realized since I am giving my opinions to Young Grasshopper for his deluxe edition game, that rules need to be black and white…not having to go to this section or that section to find technicalities

3rd Siredblood and I are close friends as well so to help his tournament this would benefit him as well…in fact been talking to Siredblood all day about this…I am also giving opinions and suggestions for his tournament…ie the Cavalry units and lend lease to China which will be a rule in the tournament and a few more concepts as well

Siredblood is making a card for this rule as well

hopefully those who have struggled with this strategy, now they are clear

I stand by my feelings that the rules do not clearly answer this scenario properly and perception is what drives what can and can not be done. I read this totally different than what Kreighund states…not arguing with him but I can rebuttal the heck out of it. Reason is technicalities…you have to go to different sections of the rule book to get the answer for a scenario that rules you look at are vastly different.

Logic is easy Russia gets attacked they have every right to get that territory back and rule states Russia may declare war against an Axis power…Singular so both Germans and Russians did not declare war the Germans become insignificant.

Easy fix is any Germans in Russian territories while not at war negates the 5 IPC Bonus that Germany is due

Hopefully Desert Admiral and Sired don’t change the rules regarding game mechanics just because you don’t like them. It’s one thing to change the victory conditions or NO’s in order to balance the game for a tournament, but to change the game mechanics leaves no room to then call it an Axis and Allies tournament. The game is what it is regardless of your opposition to the rules of the game. You are confusing the rules of other games with the rules of Axis and Allies. The are no pacts in the game of Axis and Allies. If Germany’s NO was a pact then Russia would have to get some benefit from it. They don’t. Germany get 5 IPC’s, Russia gets dick. It’s not a pact it’s a NO. You were wrong on the first page of this thread and you’ve been wrong on every page since then. If this thread goes 50 pages and you still claim that you’re right then you’ll be wrong on the 50th page of the thread as well.

You claim over and over again that it’s all different because it is part of Russia. It isn’t. It is now and always has been a part of the nation of Poland. Russia had occupied it at the time that this game begins. In your game Italy then occupied it. The rules state clearly that if you want to take it back then you have to declare war on the forces that occupy it. You chose not to because you wanted to play it like a different game and not like Axis and Allies. You can attack a sea zone like that but you can’t attack a land territory like that. That is the mechanics of Axis and Allies. Yes, they are stated quite clearly.

Sorry Dude, you can’t win this argument no matter how long this thread lasts. By all means keep it up though, it’s quite entertaining to read.