• Teams are placed in one of four pots of 8 teams each. The first pot is the top countries according to the FIFA rankings and the host nation, the 2nd pot is European teams, next is CONCACAF and Asian teams, and last is African teams as well as leftovers from other regions (Europe/S.America). After that one team from each pot is randomly placed in the various groups.

    It’s a flawed system and almost invariably ends up with various ‘group of death’ and easy groups. While I do support the idea that they should try to spread out teams to create a more global experience, I think there should be more consideration for how good each team is. The NCAA Tourney does a fairly good job of seeding each team and then placing them according to their perceived strength, location, and potential opponents, etc. But with FIFA the way it is today, this could easily lead to corruption and group fixing. So maybe completely random is the way to go, it might not always be fair but at least it’s impartial.  :roll:


  • @frimmel:

    So is the “Draw” for this event an actual random draw or is it based at all on some sort of rankings? Is there politics involved i.e. intentionally setting the US up to fail?


  • @wittmann:

    @frimmel:

    So is the “Draw” for this event an actual random draw or is it based at all on some sort of rankings? Is there politics involved i.e. intentionally setting the US up to fail?

    ???


  • Um! What was I going to say? Internet was slow and I could not post. I thought.

    It was something along the lines of: I love football, but it is rife with corruption from the top down. See the Qatar fiasco at the moment. Why Qatar for a World Cup?
    Blatter should never have got another 4 years as President. He has to go. He is a horrid man and the worse thing in football at the moment.
    His comment about those bringing up corruption allegations being racially motivated, is ridiculous. He has always been against technology in football and against video proving right from wrong is another stupid sign he cannot see things need changing for the good of the beautiful game. He is the problem.
    Good luck USA!

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Canada will come out on top.

    The most sure way to win, is not to play.


  • Spain got robbt tonight! Robin and Robben Hood ,what else to say?? :-D

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    @aequitas:

    Spain got robbt tonight! Robin and Robben Hood ,what else to say?? :-D

    Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the game, but heard about the score.

    Did you get to watch the game?

    I was shocked. I wasn’t expecting that. :-o


  • Only saw the goals summarized, but the game was way of a revenge (2010). Spain, who is Spain?? They got kicked.
    Chile won as well and I think we will see a little bit more of them!

    HUP ORANJE HUP! Looks like they going to Semi finals!


  • @John:

    @aequitas:

    Spain got robbt tonight! Robin and Robben Hood ,what else to say?? :-D

    Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the game, but heard about the score.

    Did you get to watch the game?

    I was shocked. I wasn’t expecting that. :-o

    I don’t think anyone was expecting that. I was hoping and pulling for an Orange win, but I thought it’d be a close game decided by a goal or two. It was tied up at the intermission and then Netherlands started scoring and Spain just packed it in. They folded faster than a house of cards. Several goals were down to the goalie making mistakes, but he didn’t get a lot of help from the Spanish midfield or defense.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @axisandalliesplayer:

    @John:

    @aequitas:

    Spain got robbt tonight! Robin and Robben Hood ,what else to say?? :-D

    Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the game, but heard about the score.

    Did you get to watch the game?

    I was shocked. I wasn’t expecting that. :-o

    I don’t think anyone was expecting that. I was hoping and pulling for an Orange win, but I thought it’d be a close game decided by a goal or two. It was tied up at the intermission and then Netherlands started scoring and Spain just packed it in. They folded faster than a house of cards. Several goals were down to the goalie making mistakes, but he didn’t get a lot of help from the Spanish midfield or defense.

    I wondered why their were so many goals scored. Thanks for the info.

    I wanted to watch it, but had to work. :-)


  • http://www.espnfc.com/video/latest-videos/600/video/1878787?&ex_cid=espnapi_affiliate_Google_World_Cup_Video

    That swan dive header is simply majestic! It’s not in the video, but one of the Spanish defenders kept him on when he got behind his defender. Spain never really got things going in the 2nd and Netherlands had some beautiful passing to set their shots up.


  • Found a gif of the header where you can see where he was kept on.

    http://i.imgur.com/5JS27Ym.gif

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @axisandalliesplayer:

    Found a gif of the header where you can see where he was kept on.

    http://i.imgur.com/5JS27Ym.gif

    Wow, thanks for the clips! I bet the Dutch fans were going nuts on this game. :-D


  • It was a very satisfying result for me. I can’t stand Spain.
    I was working, but  kept getting texts from family. I watched the Chile-
    Oz game and the goals from the Holland game. They were all good ones.
    I was impressed with Chile too.
    Let’s hope they can knock out Spain, who go home early as champions, like Italy did in 2010.

  • '19 '13

    Glorious play by oranje!


  • @John:

    @axisandalliesplayer:

    Found a gif of the header where you can see where he was kept on.

    http://i.imgur.com/5JS27Ym.gif

    Wow, thanks for the clips! I bet the Dutch fans were going nuts on this game. :-D

    You have no idea!… :-)


  • Costa Rica with the 2nd shocking upset of the World Cup! Uruguay will be hard pressed to advance now with games against both England and Italy left on their slate.


  • Italy had the lead for 30 seconds. Does not bode well.

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    You needn’t have worried.

    Gerrard is too old; it’s all very well to have Pirlo running a team but SG is not in that class.

    Uruguay looked like a bunch of 40 something middleweight boxers brought out of retirement for one last fight to pay child maintenance.

    Same for Spain - this is not a contest for old men.

    Italy & England to meet again in the final?


  • @Flashman:

    You needn’t have worried.

    Gerrard is too old; it’s all very well to have Pirlo running a team but SG is not in that class.

    Uruguay looked like a bunch of 40 something middleweight boxers brought out of retirement for one last fight to pay child maintenance.

    Same for Spain - this is not a contest for old men.

    Italy & England to meet again in the final?

    I don’t think England has what it takes to get there by a long shot. Netherlands looked stronger than expected and they went from Darkhorse to one of the favorites after that performance. Brazil wasn’t sharp as expected despite getting the points, so we’ll have to see how they play their other group games. For me the favorites are Germany, Netherlands, and (conditionally) Brazil.

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