G40 Gauss_Death (Allies +13) vs oysteilo (Axis)

[Gauss_Death]

Ok so it is two parts:
Part 1, when you can do it: if the enemy (you) are attacking Japanese ships and/or conduct an amphibious assault on a japanese territory.
You were conducting an amphibious assault. So this part is satisfied.

Part 2, what can be targeted: surface warships but not submarines or transports.
I cannot target your transport. (Note: if you had a cruiser or battleship taking part in the amphibious assault I could have targeted them. Targeting a Destroyer not taking part in an amphibious assault is doubtful.)

Part 2 was my error, I cannot target your transport even though you were conducting an amphibious assault.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Ok so it is two parts:
Part 1, when you can do it: if the enemy (you) are attacking Japanese ships and/or conduct an amphibious assault on a japanese territory.
You were conducting an amphibious assault. So this part is satisfied.

Part 2, what can be targeted: surface warships but not submarines or transports.
I cannot target your transport. (Note: if you had a cruiser or battleship taking part in the amphibious assault I could have targeted them. Targeting a Destroyer not taking part in an amphibious assault is doubtful.)

Part 2 was my error, I cannot target your transport even though you were conducting an amphibious assault.

OK so if I had a cruiser there and was doing an amphibiois assult you could target both the cruiser and the transport?

[Gauss_Death]

No, if you are conducting an amphibious assault with a cruiser and transport I could target the cruiser but not the transport.

The transport can never be targeted by kamikaze attacks under any circumstances. It’s a strange rule but it is the rule.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

No, if you are conducting an amphibious assault with a cruiser and transport I could target the cruiser but not the transport.

The transport can never be targeted by kamikaze attacks under any circumstances. It’s a strange rule but it is the rule.

Why is amphibious assult mentioned in the first red paragraph then.

[Gauss_Death]

Because warships such as Cruisers and Battleships can be targeted.

[Gauss_Death]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            2 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,6,5
            Italians collect 7 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 35 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Philippines: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Philippines from Americans to Japanese
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 86 to 79
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 35 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Philippines from Japanese to Americans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Philippines: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 79 to 86
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[Gauss_Death]

I have returned the units (transport, infantry), territory, and production units.

[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            3 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Russia

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 destroyers placed in 54 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs

[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Russia

Turn Complete - French

[oysteilo]

let the battle begin……A successfull battle is less then 10 german land units remaing

[Gauss_Death]

I accidentally hit space bar too fast and didnt change to keep one tank (instead kept 1 tacbomber). I am swapping the T.bomber for the tank (same attack value so the rolls didnt change).

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

I accidentally hit space bar too fast and didnt change to keep one tank (instead kept 1 tacbomber). I am swapping the T.bomber for the tank (same attack value so the rolls didnt change).

ok

[Gauss_Death]

It does mean ‘victory’ by your standards btw, I was left with 1 tank and 8 S.Bombers.

[Gauss_Death]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 18 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            10 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia
            17 armour, 18 artilleries, 52 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Russia
            3 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            3 armour moved from Ukraine to Russia
            3 armour moved from Rostov to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 26 armour, 18 artilleries, 12 bombers, 5 fighters, 55 infantry, 26 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 tactical_bomber; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters; Russians defend with 6 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 armour, 23 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 82 infantry
                Germans win with 8 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -69
                Casualties for Germans: 26 armour, 18 artilleries, 4 bombers, 5 fighters, 55 infantry, 26 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Russians: 6 aaGuns, 3 armour, 23 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 82 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Russia: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Russia: 1 armour
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Russia from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            8 bombers moved from Russia to Volgograd
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            10 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
            3 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Tambov

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in Rostov
            3 infantry placed in Volgograd
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 artilleries placed in France
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 infantry placed in Southern France
            3 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Ukraine

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,6,4
            Germans collect 61 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs total
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 20 to 0
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 76 to 96
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[oysteilo]

wow

that was more than I could hope for

[Gauss_Death]

Yeah, that was a lot of bad rolling for me. I should have come out of that with about 30 units, not 9.

[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Russians

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Yeah, that was a lot of bad rolling for me. I should have come out of that with about 30 units, not 9.

Yeah, that is what I was calculating too about 30 units. but it is so unpredictable on these battles with large number of units. If I hit slightly above average and you slightly below it is suddenly a 19-15 unit swing on round 1. Then it is a completely different battle. I really dont know what the odds are for the current outcome

[oysteilo]

@oysteilo:

@Gauss_Death:

Yeah, that was a lot of bad rolling for me. I should have come out of that with about 30 units, not 9.

Yeah, that is what I was calculating too about 30 units. but it is so unpredictable on these battles with large number of units. If I hit slightly above average and you slightly below it is suddenly a 19-15 unit swing on round 1. Then it is a completely different battle. I really dont know what the odds are for the current outcome

I meant 10 -15 on the first round

[oysteilo]

i dont know. Do you have any input on this? According to the battle calculator you are a 96% chance to win and on average you should have 33 units left. Now this is where it gets interesting, IF I win I should have 11 units left on average

In my head this means there is a 4% chance I will have from 1 - 22 units left AND there is a 96% chance you will have 1 - 66 units left. You ended up having 9 units left. Maybe this is somewhere in the range of 15%?? This is basically my question, do you have a good feel for this?( because  I certainly dont)