G40 Gauss_Death (Allies +13) vs oysteilo (Axis)

[oysteilo]

@oysteilo:

@Gauss_Death:

Your transport (and infantry) have been sunk. I have corrected the production (loss of 7 since you didn’t capture the Philippines), units (loss of the transport and infantry), and territory ownership.

I didn’t see a way to subtract 3 kamikaze counters. I am down to 3.

OK

Why am I not asked for kamikaze when doing the assault? It annoys me. But according to the rules you are right

From page 16 in the pacific rulebook:

The Japanese player has the ability to make
a special defensive strike against Allied
surface warships. Japan is allowed to make
6 kamikaze strikes during the game. These
strikes can be made only in sea zones that
contain the Kamikaze symbol: those surrounding Japan,
Okinawa, Iwo Jima, Formosa, Marianas, and Philippines.
If an Allied player attacks Japanese units in or declares an
amphibious assault from one of these sea zones, the Japanese
player can announce at the beginning of this phase that he or
she intends to launch one or more kamikaze strikes in that sea
zone. They are resolved before any combat begins.
The Japanese player must declare how many kamikaze
strikes will be made, in which sea zone(s) they will
be used, and which enemy ship will be struck by each
kamikaze before any dice are rolled. For each declared
strike, 1 Kamikaze token must be spent (no actual air unit
is involved) and will be removed from the game after the
strike is resolved. A kamikaze strike can target any specific
enemy surface warship (not a submarine or transport)
belonging to the attacking power. More than one kamikaze
strike can be made against the same ship. Kamikaze strikes
hit on an attack roll of 2 or less. If a hit is scored, it must
be applied to the chosen unit. Surface warships that are
destroyed by a kamikaze strike (capital ships still take 2
hits) are immediately removed and will not participate in
the subsequent battle. A kamikaze strike prevents offshore
bombardment supporting an amphibious assault in that
sea zone, whether or not the strike is successful (place the
used Kamikaze token in the sea zone until you resolve the
amphibious assault to remind you that the ships may not
bombard).

The way I read this is that in this situation you can not declare kamikaze, because there are no warships in the sz AND I am not attacking any Japanese units. If you had an inf in the Phil I think you could declare on the transports.

[Gauss_Death]

Dang, I missed the part about the transport. Ok.

I will reverse all that on my next turn.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Dang, I missed the part about the transport. Ok.

I will reverse all that on my next turn.

I dont know, maybe you are right after all…… I will post to the forum and see what people say

[Gauss_Death]

No, it is pretty clear. I cannot target your transports with kamikaze attacks. I made an error, I didn’t realize transports were not subject to kamikaze attacks.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

No, it is pretty clear. I cannot target your transports with kamikaze attacks. I made an error, I didn’t realize transports were not subject to kamikaze attacks.

but in the first paragraph it says something about an amphious assult. what I am doing is not an amphibious assult?

[Gauss_Death]

Ok so it is two parts:
Part 1, when you can do it: if the enemy (you) are attacking Japanese ships and/or conduct an amphibious assault on a japanese territory.
You were conducting an amphibious assault. So this part is satisfied.

Part 2, what can be targeted: surface warships but not submarines or transports.
I cannot target your transport. (Note: if you had a cruiser or battleship taking part in the amphibious assault I could have targeted them. Targeting a Destroyer not taking part in an amphibious assault is doubtful.)

Part 2 was my error, I cannot target your transport even though you were conducting an amphibious assault.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Ok so it is two parts:
Part 1, when you can do it: if the enemy (you) are attacking Japanese ships and/or conduct an amphibious assault on a japanese territory.
You were conducting an amphibious assault. So this part is satisfied.

Part 2, what can be targeted: surface warships but not submarines or transports.
I cannot target your transport. (Note: if you had a cruiser or battleship taking part in the amphibious assault I could have targeted them. Targeting a Destroyer not taking part in an amphibious assault is doubtful.)

Part 2 was my error, I cannot target your transport even though you were conducting an amphibious assault.

OK so if I had a cruiser there and was doing an amphibiois assult you could target both the cruiser and the transport?

[Gauss_Death]

No, if you are conducting an amphibious assault with a cruiser and transport I could target the cruiser but not the transport.

The transport can never be targeted by kamikaze attacks under any circumstances. It’s a strange rule but it is the rule.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

No, if you are conducting an amphibious assault with a cruiser and transport I could target the cruiser but not the transport.

The transport can never be targeted by kamikaze attacks under any circumstances. It’s a strange rule but it is the rule.

Why is amphibious assult mentioned in the first red paragraph then.

[Gauss_Death]

Because warships such as Cruisers and Battleships can be targeted.

[Gauss_Death]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            2 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,6,5
            Italians collect 7 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 35 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Philippines: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Philippines from Americans to Japanese
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 86 to 79
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 35 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Philippines from Japanese to Americans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Philippines: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 79 to 86
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[Gauss_Death]

I have returned the units (transport, infantry), territory, and production units.

[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            3 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Russia

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 destroyers placed in 54 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs

[oysteilo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Russia

Turn Complete - French

[oysteilo]

let the battle begin……A successfull battle is less then 10 german land units remaing

[Gauss_Death]

I accidentally hit space bar too fast and didnt change to keep one tank (instead kept 1 tacbomber). I am swapping the T.bomber for the tank (same attack value so the rolls didnt change).

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

I accidentally hit space bar too fast and didnt change to keep one tank (instead kept 1 tacbomber). I am swapping the T.bomber for the tank (same attack value so the rolls didnt change).

ok

[Gauss_Death]

It does mean ‘victory’ by your standards btw, I was left with 1 tank and 8 S.Bombers.

[Gauss_Death]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 18 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            10 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia
            17 armour, 18 artilleries, 52 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Russia
            3 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            3 armour moved from Ukraine to Russia
            3 armour moved from Rostov to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 26 armour, 18 artilleries, 12 bombers, 5 fighters, 55 infantry, 26 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 tactical_bomber; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters; Russians defend with 6 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 armour, 23 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 82 infantry
                Germans win with 8 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -69
                Casualties for Germans: 26 armour, 18 artilleries, 4 bombers, 5 fighters, 55 infantry, 26 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 10 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Russians: 6 aaGuns, 3 armour, 23 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 82 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Russia: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Russia: 1 armour
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Russia from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            8 bombers moved from Russia to Volgograd
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            10 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
            3 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Tambov

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in Rostov
            3 infantry placed in Volgograd
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 artilleries placed in France
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 infantry placed in Southern France
            3 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 5.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Ukraine

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,6,4
            Germans collect 61 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs total
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 20 to 0
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 76 to 96
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[oysteilo]

wow

that was more than I could hope for