Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15

    A couple of questions……

    1. Does a sub prevent bombardment from cruisers and battleships (no destroyer present) I think attacker can choose to ignore the sub, right?

    2. secondly, if the bombarded area (such as western germany) has an airbase and you scramble a fighter against the attacking sea units, then no bombardment can occur, right?

    3. Given situation 1 and 2, the attacker also attack the airbase, you can stil scramble from air base, right?

  • '15

    1: I’m only 99% confident in my answer here, so I’ll let someone else do it for me.

    2: Correct. The scramble creates a sea battle, so no bombardment.

    3: You choose your scrambles before any attacks are made, so yes, so long as your air base was undamaged before the start of the combat phase, you can choose to scramble/intercept/remain at your whimsy.


  • @oysteilo:

    A couple of questions……

    1. Does a sub prevent bombardment from cruisers and battleships (no destroyer present) I think attacker can choose to ignore the sub, right?

    If the attacker chooses to ignore the submarine, no sea battle will occur. So bombardment during an amphibious assault will be possible.


  • That’s right, the sub can be ignored and so the ships can bombard, unless the defender scrambles something, which brings the sub(s) into the battle and they can’t be ignored

  • '15

    @Gamerman01:

    That’s right, the sub can be ignored and so the ships can bombard, unless the defender scrambles something, which brings the sub(s) into the battle and they can’t be ignored

    Just to cover all the bases, the sub can then submerge before the fight and effectively decline to enter the fight, mind you.

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    If ANZAC attacks Japan, does Japan continue to collect 10 IPCs for trade with America? the condition reads “has not made an unprovoked declaration of war on UK/ANZAC”.


  • Yes, Japan still collects

    Can’t be at war with USA, did not make unprovoked DOW on UK/ANZ and has not attacked French Indo-China

    3 conditions

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    Thanks

  • '16

    Clarification, please.

    1. Does a sub prevent bombardment from cruisers and battleships (no destroyer present) I think attacker can choose to ignore the sub, right?

    That’s right, the sub can be ignored and so the ships can bombard, unless the defender scrambles something, which brings the sub(s) into the battle and they can’t be ignored

    But, a lone transport cannot make an amphibious assault against a Sub.  A surface ship is needed to drive it off.

    So,
    If the BB and the CA do not drive off the SS, how is the AP able to get past the SS?
    If the BB and/or the CA engage the SS, then no bombardment.

    This seems inconsistent.  But if that is the way the rule works, OK


  • @gamergray:

    But, a lone transport cannot make an amphibious assault against a Sub.  A surface ship is needed to drive it off.

    Right, but we’re talking about bombarding ships escorting the transport here, so this is not an issue.

    So,
    If the BB and the CA do not drive off the SS, how is the AP able to get past the SS?

    AP is a transport?  What do you mean by “drive off”? 
    With an escort, the sub can still be ignored. 
    If there is a scramble, then the sub is in the battle and the cruiser and battleship or whatever would have to win the battle for the transport to unload and conduct amphibious assault.

    If the BB and/or the CA engage the SS, then no bombardment.

    That’s right

    This seems inconsistent.  But if that is the way the rule works, OK

    I’m not sure what you’re asking.  Let me know what you think about my explanation above - I think it might have answered your question.  If not, ask follow up question please

  • '16

    What prevents the SS from engaging the AP(transport)?

    The sub stops the transport if is is alone. 
    If the BB or CA don’t engage the SS why does the SS not stop the transport?


  • @gamergray:

    What prevents the SS from engaging the AP(transport)?

    The sub stops the transport if is is alone. 
    If the BB or CA don’t engage the SS why does the SS not stop the transport?

    Now I understand your question.

    Subs can be ignored.
    An exception to the rule is unescorted transports (sub prevents that combat movement from being made)
    However, in this case the transport IS escorted, therefore the exception does not apply and you are back to subs can be ignored.

    However, if there is a scramble, then there is combat in the seazone and the sub joins in the combat and cannot be ignored (after all, it is not alone - it has defending aircraft with it).

    In other words, a warship can always ignore subs unless there is a scramble of aircraft, regardless of whether transports are with it/them or not.

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    If Russian troops attack an empty Korea during turn 2… does that negate the Mongolian rule?


  • @Young:

    If Russian troops attack an empty Korea during turn 2… does that negate the Mongolian rule?

    Doesn’t matter if it’s empty, if Russia attacks Korea before Japan attacks Russia, the Mongolians will never join the Russians

    Similar to the NO where Japan can’t attack FIC.  Empty or not

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    @Gamerman01:

    @Young:

    If Russian troops attack an empty Korea during turn 2… does that negate the Mongolian rule?

    Doesn’t matter if it’s empty, if Russia attacks Korea before Japan attacks Russia, the Mongolians will never join the Russians

    Similar to the NO where Japan can’t attack FIC.  Empty or not

    Thanks, not sure what happened to the sticky thread that explained the Mongolian rule in detail, it was helpful.


  • It was about 5 pages down (last post in August)
    I bumped it for you
    G40 boards

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    @Gamerman01:

    It was about 5 pages down (last post in August)
    I bumped it for you
    G40 boards

    Thanks.

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    Can a sub be ignored during an amphibious assault and still get shore bombardment from the same territory? if so, what would be the circustances required?

  • '19 '17 '16

    @Young:

    Can a sub be ignored during an amphibious assault and still get shore bombardment from the same territory? if so, what would be the circustances required?

    Yes. No special circumstances.

    But you can’t ignore a sub with an unescorted (no warship) landing. Not 100% sure if a sub escort counts.


  • Simon, sub escort does count

    YG, yes you can ignore subs and bombard.

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